1 00:00:37,820 --> 00:00:39,691 ♪ Stop the world 2 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:41,780 ♪ And let me off 3 00:00:43,478 --> 00:00:46,394 ♪ I'm tired of going round and round ♪ 4 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:52,095 ♪ I've played the game of love and lost ♪ 5 00:00:54,184 --> 00:00:55,968 ♪ So stop the world 6 00:00:56,012 --> 00:00:58,406 -♪ And let me off -LAURA: Let me off! 7 00:00:58,449 --> 00:01:01,235 -MAN: Let me off! -♪ My dreams are 8 00:01:01,278 --> 00:01:04,499 GROUP : ♪ Shattered, don't you see? 9 00:01:04,542 --> 00:01:06,022 MAN: Oh, Lord Almighty. 10 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:09,417 ♪ Now you no longer care for me ♪ 11 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:11,332 -MAN: You don't care for me. -LAURA: Here you go. 12 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:14,726 ♪ I miss the wonder of your kiss ♪ 13 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:20,384 ♪ How could you leave me here like this? ♪ 14 00:01:22,212 --> 00:01:25,737 : ♪ Stop the world and let me off ♪ 15 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:27,739 MAN: Let me off! 16 00:01:27,783 --> 00:01:30,655 -♪ I'm tired of going round and round... ♪ - 17 00:01:38,794 --> 00:01:41,057 ♪ So stop the world and let me off. ♪ 18 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:43,668 LAURA: Hey, don't forget the beers. Okay? 19 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:45,496 -KEITH: I ain't gonna forget the beers. -Go! 20 00:01:45,540 --> 00:01:47,629 -KEITH: Come on. 21 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:51,981 MAN: I'll give you a boost if you want. 22 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:53,374 LAURA : I don't need yourhelp. 23 00:01:53,417 --> 00:01:55,289 KEITH: Ooh, hell, she got you, buddy. 24 00:01:56,594 --> 00:01:57,943 -Toss them beers. -Here you go. 25 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,902 -You got it? -Okay, let's go. 26 00:01:59,945 --> 00:02:02,731 KEITH : All right, all right. 27 00:02:02,774 --> 00:02:04,472 MAN: Hold up, hold up. The beer. 28 00:02:04,515 --> 00:02:05,734 KEITH: Take this. Take this. 29 00:02:05,777 --> 00:02:07,518 Come on. 30 00:02:07,562 --> 00:02:09,694 These damn shoes. 31 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:27,756 -Come on in. It's warm. 32 00:02:27,799 --> 00:02:30,454 Come on, buddy. 33 00:02:30,498 --> 00:02:33,065 Look, you can even wash your hair. 34 00:02:33,109 --> 00:02:35,372 -I washed mine last month. 35 00:02:38,984 --> 00:02:40,464 -KEITH: Hey. Come on. -LAURA : Hey. 36 00:02:40,508 --> 00:02:42,553 -Jerk. -Watch this. Do it to me. - 37 00:02:44,338 --> 00:02:45,556 Laura, Keith, come here. 38 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,992 -Look what I found. 39 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:48,385 -Holy shit. -KEITH: What the hell is that? 40 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:49,517 LAURA: What is it... 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,127 MAN : Hell you doing? 42 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:53,085 -Get out of here! Now! 43 00:02:53,129 --> 00:02:55,175 -Geez! -Come on! 44 00:02:58,221 --> 00:03:00,267 MAN: Goddamn kids. 45 00:03:01,790 --> 00:03:03,487 KEITH: Give me my damn clothes! Come on! 46 00:03:03,531 --> 00:03:06,882 LAURA: Go, go, go, go! 47 00:03:17,893 --> 00:03:19,982 Turn off the beam, fool. 48 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:29,791 TOM: We got, uh, Steve from Dow, 49 00:04:29,834 --> 00:04:33,490 Ted from Union Carbide, Jerry from Exxon 50 00:04:33,534 --> 00:04:35,405 and Andy from Allied. 51 00:04:35,449 --> 00:04:39,017 Welcome to Taft Law, gentlemen. 52 00:04:39,061 --> 00:04:41,106 Before we get started, a little housekeeping. 53 00:04:41,150 --> 00:04:43,326 Um, all of you know this young man 54 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:46,938 as the dedicated Taft associate who, for the past eight years, 55 00:04:46,982 --> 00:04:50,290 has buried himself in the Superfund law. 56 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,422 -I'm not paying for that cleanup. - 57 00:04:52,466 --> 00:04:54,946 Well, still it is my pleasure to share with you 58 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:58,167 that just last week Rob Bilott was welcomed as a partner 59 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:00,909 -here at Taft, Stettinius & Hollister. -Mm-hmm. 60 00:05:00,952 --> 00:05:04,304 -Good. Good. -Congratulations. 61 00:05:04,347 --> 00:05:05,609 RECEPTIONIST: Good morning. Taft Law. 62 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:07,611 One moment. I'll connect you. 63 00:05:10,135 --> 00:05:12,312 Good morning. Taft Law. 64 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:14,314 One moment, please. 65 00:05:17,534 --> 00:05:20,363 It's the governor's office calling for, um... 66 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:22,322 calling for Mr. Burke. 67 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:25,934 May I help you? 68 00:05:25,977 --> 00:05:29,067 Wilbur Tennant calling on Robbie Bilott. 69 00:05:29,111 --> 00:05:31,069 ROB: EPA saddled them with the whole bill, 70 00:05:31,113 --> 00:05:32,897 and given your client's history at that site, 71 00:05:32,941 --> 00:05:34,725 that-that's a real possibility. 72 00:05:34,769 --> 00:05:36,945 -LAWYER: I'll take it back to them. -TOM: Good. 73 00:05:36,988 --> 00:05:39,251 Tab 12, Middletown... 74 00:05:39,295 --> 00:05:41,645 KATHLEEN: I know. I'm sorry. 75 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:44,474 -But they won't leave. -Who's "they"? 76 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:45,954 I don't know. 77 00:05:45,997 --> 00:05:47,999 They say they know you. 78 00:05:51,525 --> 00:05:52,700 ROB: Um... 79 00:05:52,743 --> 00:05:54,354 Robbie Bilott? 80 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:57,444 Um... yes. 81 00:05:57,487 --> 00:05:59,881 They call it a landfill. 82 00:05:59,924 --> 00:06:01,926 A dump's what it is. 83 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:04,494 They told my brother and me no chemicals, just trash, 84 00:06:04,538 --> 00:06:06,191 but we ain't stupid. 85 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:07,454 Made them videotapes myself. 86 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:09,194 All the proof you need. 87 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:11,022 They're poisoning the creek, killing my animals. 88 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:13,460 -I'm in the middle of a meeting. -So I want a lawyer. 89 00:06:13,503 --> 00:06:15,549 Every damn one in Parkersburg too yellow to take my case. 90 00:06:15,592 --> 00:06:17,072 RECEPTIONIST: Rob, he wants you back in there. 91 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:18,900 WILBUR: They're all scared shitless of DuPont. 92 00:06:18,943 --> 00:06:20,423 Well, I ain't scared of nobody. 93 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:22,425 Okay. Kathleen is my paralegal. 94 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:24,514 She's gonna give you a directory of lawyers. 95 00:06:24,558 --> 00:06:26,342 That's why I called your grandma. 96 00:06:27,952 --> 00:06:29,389 What? 97 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:32,217 My neighbor tells me, "Call Alma White. 98 00:06:32,261 --> 00:06:34,045 "Her grandson's some fancy environment lawyer 99 00:06:34,089 --> 00:06:35,482 down in Cincinnati." 100 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:37,005 RECEPTIONIST: Reception. 101 00:06:37,048 --> 00:06:39,355 Yes, sir, he's right here. Uh, yes... 102 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,488 Uh, sir, 103 00:06:41,531 --> 00:06:43,968 I am a corporate defense attorney. 104 00:06:44,012 --> 00:06:45,230 So? 105 00:06:45,274 --> 00:06:47,145 I defend chemical companies. 106 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:48,930 Well, now you can defend me. 107 00:06:48,973 --> 00:06:50,627 TOM: Rob. 108 00:06:50,671 --> 00:06:53,456 Uh, thir-thirty seconds, Tom. 109 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:55,806 -Uh, uh, I'm sorry, Mister...? -Tennant. 110 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:58,461 I can offer you a referral, but I'm just... 111 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:01,290 I-I just don't see how I can be of any help to you. 112 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:03,335 You can start by watching them tapes, for one thing. 113 00:07:03,379 --> 00:07:05,294 Oh, let's go, Earl. 114 00:07:05,337 --> 00:07:07,165 I'm sorry. I-I-I-I wish you all the luck. 115 00:07:07,209 --> 00:07:08,471 Don't need your damn luck, boy. 116 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:11,126 -I need your help. -TOM: Rob! 117 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:12,388 KATHLEEN: I'll be back for this, all right? 118 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:13,476 RECEPTIONIST: Okay, sure. 119 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,304 Come on. 120 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:24,618 I'm not arguing with the overall analysis. 121 00:07:24,661 --> 00:07:27,098 My only point is that whatever we decide upon... 122 00:07:32,669 --> 00:07:33,888 LAWYER: Thank you, gentlemen. 123 00:07:36,630 --> 00:07:39,633 -Do you know where we're going? -It's, uh... 124 00:07:39,676 --> 00:07:41,112 -a place right around the corner. -Yeah? 125 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:42,505 What the hell was that all about? 126 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:45,639 He knows my grandmother. 127 00:07:45,682 --> 00:07:47,031 Really? 128 00:07:47,075 --> 00:07:49,120 Well, m-my mom's from West Virginia, 129 00:07:49,164 --> 00:07:51,296 uh, uh, from a town, Parkersburg. 130 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:53,995 Not us. My-my-my father was Air Force. 131 00:07:54,038 --> 00:07:56,388 We-we moved around a lot, but we spent the summers there. 132 00:07:56,432 --> 00:07:57,999 STEVE: Come on, Terp. You're buying. 133 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:00,088 Of course I am. 134 00:08:00,131 --> 00:08:03,047 You can be from West Virginia, Rob. 135 00:08:03,091 --> 00:08:05,093 I won't tell anyone. 136 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:12,143 TOM: All right, gentlemen. Morton's it is. 137 00:08:12,187 --> 00:08:14,363 -Three martini lunch. 138 00:08:14,406 --> 00:08:17,105 Still deign to eat with us lowly associates? 139 00:08:18,541 --> 00:08:21,849 You can't drive an American car. 140 00:08:21,892 --> 00:08:24,678 Taft-Hartley, union busting? 141 00:08:24,721 --> 00:08:26,767 We practically invented it. 142 00:08:26,810 --> 00:08:29,509 "We"? Besides, I know a highly esteemed partner 143 00:08:29,552 --> 00:08:30,771 who still drives American. 144 00:08:30,814 --> 00:08:32,163 Some real clunkers, too. 145 00:08:32,207 --> 00:08:33,991 Okay, yeah, but-but he collects them. 146 00:08:34,035 --> 00:08:35,297 That's different. 147 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,342 Like his no-name college and law school. 148 00:08:37,386 --> 00:08:38,822 -No offense. -Are you listening to this? 149 00:08:38,866 --> 00:08:40,389 H-Hey, you guys go ahead, all right? 150 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:41,912 Hey, look, I-I didn't mean anything by it. 151 00:08:41,956 --> 00:08:43,392 Oh, no, I got to make a call. 152 00:08:43,435 --> 00:08:44,828 It's all right. I'll see you there. 153 00:08:44,872 --> 00:08:47,744 -Okay, we'll save you a fish log. -Yeah. 154 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:49,267 KARLA: You can be such an asshole. 155 00:08:49,311 --> 00:08:51,269 JAMES: Karla, it was a joke. 156 00:08:51,313 --> 00:08:52,967 -KARLA: Yeah. -JAMES: We always joke. 157 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:55,143 KARLA: Oh, yeah, you guys are a couple of jokesters. 158 00:08:55,186 --> 00:08:57,449 -Anyway... 159 00:09:03,804 --> 00:09:07,285 ALMA : You've reached the residence of Alma White. 160 00:09:07,329 --> 00:09:10,201 I can't come to the phone right now... 161 00:09:10,245 --> 00:09:11,551 He's good. 162 00:09:11,594 --> 00:09:13,553 He's home early tonight, actually. 163 00:09:13,596 --> 00:09:15,990 SARAH'S MOM : Tell him I say, "Howdy, partner." 164 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:17,557 She says, "Howdy, partner." 165 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,341 SARAH'S MOM: Are we ever gonna see him again on Sundays? 166 00:09:19,384 --> 00:09:21,604 SARAH: Yes, he can still come to Sunday dinners, Mom. 167 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:23,519 He's a partner, not the President of the United States. 168 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,826 SARAH'S MOM: I want to make-- Oh, do you have my bundt pan? 169 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:27,741 -Returned it. -Where? I looked under the counter. 170 00:09:27,784 --> 00:09:29,917 It's in the right-hand cupboard, in the plastic. 171 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,571 -Yeah. -Oh. I-I thought... 172 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:34,617 -Okay, well, we just sat down. -All right, dear. 173 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:36,532 -SARAH: So I got to go. -Love to Rob and Teddy. 174 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:37,620 SARAH: All right, see you Sunday. 175 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:39,230 -Love to Dad. -Talk to you later. 176 00:09:39,274 --> 00:09:41,276 SARAH: Can you pretend to be surprised about the cake? 177 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:43,060 She wants it to be very special. 178 00:09:43,104 --> 00:09:44,714 Oh, and the granite samples came in. 179 00:09:44,758 --> 00:09:46,803 Can you pick them up on your way home tomorrow? 180 00:09:46,847 --> 00:09:48,370 -ROB: Mm. -Rob? 181 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:50,807 Hmm? Oh, sure. 182 00:09:50,851 --> 00:09:53,201 SARAH : Father, Son and the Spirit. Thank you. 183 00:09:56,073 --> 00:09:57,901 You okay? 184 00:09:57,945 --> 00:09:59,033 Yes. 185 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:00,643 Bless us, our Lord, 186 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:02,558 and these thy gifts which we are about to receive 187 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:03,994 from thy bounty, through Christ our Lord. 188 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:05,517 Amen. Thank you, God, for our food. 189 00:10:05,561 --> 00:10:07,563 Thank you for family. 190 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,173 Mm... 191 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:07,405 Thank you. 192 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,707 Hi, Grammers. 193 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,972 What on earth? 194 00:11:52,015 --> 00:11:54,670 - I... -I tried to call, but you weren't picking up. 195 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,759 ALMA: Oh, well, you know me. 196 00:11:56,803 --> 00:11:59,588 My two fake knees. 197 00:11:59,631 --> 00:12:01,764 What are you doing here? 198 00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:07,117 A, uh, farmer came to see me. 199 00:12:09,032 --> 00:12:10,599 Wilbur Tennant? 200 00:12:10,642 --> 00:12:12,340 You do know him. 201 00:12:12,383 --> 00:12:16,779 I don't socialize with him, if that's what you mean. 202 00:12:16,823 --> 00:12:20,087 Inez Graham owned the farm next to his. 203 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:22,089 I used to take you and Beth over there 204 00:12:22,132 --> 00:12:23,917 when you were little. 205 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,919 That's the place? 206 00:12:41,586 --> 00:12:43,893 -You rode that pony. -Ah. 207 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:47,767 ROB: I loved that place. 208 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:50,639 ALMA: You saw a cow for the first time. 209 00:12:50,682 --> 00:12:52,597 Learned to milk it. 210 00:12:52,641 --> 00:12:54,861 I remember you sitting there for hours 211 00:12:54,904 --> 00:12:57,689 making sure you got every last drop. 212 00:12:57,733 --> 00:13:00,562 Just like you. 213 00:13:00,605 --> 00:13:02,303 There. 214 00:13:02,346 --> 00:13:03,826 ROB: Mm. 215 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:06,002 ALMA: So, you gonna help him? 216 00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:07,961 Huh? 217 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:57,793 WILBUR: You come up the holler. 218 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,013 Dump's up the hill. 219 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:06,193 Since I started complaining about my creek, fence goes up. 220 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,673 -All blocked off. 221 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:14,897 Hi. I'm Rob. 222 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:16,638 Sandra. 223 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,294 WILBUR: The state, and every veterinarian 224 00:14:20,337 --> 00:14:22,252 I called in Parkersburg, 225 00:14:22,296 --> 00:14:24,994 they will not return my phone calls. 226 00:14:25,038 --> 00:14:27,257 -Like I bite the hand that feeds. -No, it's all right. 227 00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:28,955 -I've already... -This here's a gall. 228 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,478 Look at the size of it. 229 00:14:30,521 --> 00:14:31,914 Ain't never seen no gall that big. 230 00:14:31,958 --> 00:14:33,176 Bigger than the heart. 231 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:35,178 That your cow's? 232 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:36,963 Look at them teeth. 233 00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:41,576 Black as night. Here. 234 00:14:45,101 --> 00:14:47,016 Hoof, all turned in on itself. 235 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:50,324 Half my calves born hooves like that. 236 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,372 Tumor I done cut off the back a heifer. 237 00:14:55,416 --> 00:14:57,679 How'd you like that on your table? 238 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:03,554 ROB: What am I looking for? 239 00:15:03,598 --> 00:15:05,992 You blind, boy? 240 00:15:06,035 --> 00:15:09,952 Stones as white as the hairs on my head. 241 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:13,956 Bleached. That's chemicals, I'm telling you. 242 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,829 My animals drink this water, cool off in there. 243 00:15:17,873 --> 00:15:20,789 Get them bloody welts, them dead eyes. 244 00:15:20,832 --> 00:15:22,486 Charge at me, crazy-like. 245 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:25,707 Animals that used to eat out of my own hand. 246 00:15:30,146 --> 00:15:32,148 ROB: Where are the rest of them? 247 00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:35,456 Come on. 248 00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:49,513 In the beginning, I'd bury 'em, each one. 249 00:15:49,557 --> 00:15:51,515 They're family. 250 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:55,519 It got to be so many, pile 'em up, set fire to... 251 00:15:58,087 --> 00:16:01,003 How many did you lose? 252 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:05,007 -A hundred... ninety. 253 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,488 190 cows? 254 00:16:07,531 --> 00:16:10,317 You tell me nothing's wrong here. 255 00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:18,803 ROB: And... 256 00:16:18,847 --> 00:16:21,023 this landfill wasn't always here? 257 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:22,546 WILBUR: No. 258 00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:24,548 My brother Jim used to dig ditches 259 00:16:24,592 --> 00:16:26,028 over at DuPont plant. 260 00:16:26,072 --> 00:16:28,030 Got sick, couldn't do it no more. 261 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,727 One day, they come to him, 262 00:16:29,771 --> 00:16:32,992 offering to buy his land right up that holler. 263 00:16:33,035 --> 00:16:34,906 They promised no chemicals. 264 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:37,605 And I assume you reached out to DuPont? 265 00:16:37,648 --> 00:16:39,737 DuPont, the state, the Feds. 266 00:16:39,781 --> 00:16:42,914 I called everybody there is dozens of times. 267 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:45,047 EPA finally comes out here. 268 00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:47,484 -Oh, they did? -Well, all for some report. 269 00:16:47,528 --> 00:16:49,051 What did it say? 270 00:16:49,095 --> 00:16:51,358 You think they're gonna show me? 271 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:17,645 SARAH : Oh, hey. 272 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:23,955 -He's been like this all day. 273 00:17:23,999 --> 00:17:27,089 -Okay. Go on. -Come here. Aw. 274 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:28,917 -Aw. 275 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:33,443 SARAH: Of course you're a perfect angel for Daddy. 276 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:36,968 Did you get the tile? 277 00:17:37,012 --> 00:17:40,102 Um, I'm sorry. No. 278 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,974 -Rob. 279 00:17:43,018 --> 00:17:46,065 I didn't drive into town today. I'm sorry. 280 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:47,979 Wh-What do you mean, you didn't drive into town? 281 00:17:48,023 --> 00:17:51,331 - -I-I... I had to go to Parkersburg. 282 00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:53,768 Parkersburg? Why'd you have to go to Parkersburg? 283 00:17:53,811 --> 00:17:55,465 Uh... 284 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,859 I-I-I may have a client there. 285 00:17:57,902 --> 00:17:59,861 -In West Virginia? 286 00:17:59,904 --> 00:18:02,168 What kind of a case would you have...? 287 00:18:02,211 --> 00:18:04,561 He's a farmer. He knows my grammer. 288 00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:07,477 -Not well, but... -So, you saw her? 289 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,177 -Was your mother there? -Oh, come on, Sarah. 290 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:13,831 I didn't... I didn't sneak off to see my mother. 291 00:18:13,875 --> 00:18:15,833 So, why did you sneak off? 292 00:18:15,877 --> 00:18:17,487 I didn't. 293 00:18:19,446 --> 00:18:23,580 Our speaker tonight's no stranger to the Taft family. 294 00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:26,801 Phillip Donnelly-- Phil to us-- 295 00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:30,283 serves as in-house corporate counsel at DuPont. 296 00:18:30,326 --> 00:18:34,678 Not only one of America's most revered chemical companies, 297 00:18:34,722 --> 00:18:38,117 but one of the few giants of the industry 298 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,336 that Taft doesn't represent. 299 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:41,990 Not yet, anyway. 300 00:18:42,033 --> 00:18:44,558 -That's the spirit, James. 301 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:46,429 We asked Phil here tonight 302 00:18:46,473 --> 00:18:48,736 not just to show him what he's missing, 303 00:18:48,779 --> 00:18:52,566 but to hear how a renowned leader of our industry 304 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:54,568 stays that way. 305 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,918 Please welcome Phil Donnelly. 306 00:18:59,573 --> 00:19:00,748 Wish me luck. 307 00:19:00,791 --> 00:19:02,141 Go get 'em, Phil. 308 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:03,316 Thank you. 309 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,144 PHIL: At DuPont, w-we're not 310 00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:07,146 producing chemicals for chemicals' sake. 311 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:09,235 We're producing them for people's sake. 312 00:19:09,278 --> 00:19:11,846 To make folks' lives easier, 313 00:19:11,889 --> 00:19:15,241 happier, longer. 314 00:19:15,284 --> 00:19:20,071 That's why "better living through chemistry" 315 00:19:20,115 --> 00:19:23,727 is not just a slogan at DuPont. 316 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:26,556 -It's our DNA. 317 00:19:30,778 --> 00:19:32,388 -Hey, Rob. -Hello, Phil. 318 00:19:32,432 --> 00:19:34,129 Is it true what Tom tells me? 319 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,609 -Yeah, it's true. -Well, good on them. 320 00:19:35,652 --> 00:19:37,437 -They're lucky to have you. -Thanks, Phil. 321 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,352 Like I always tell my young associates, 322 00:19:39,395 --> 00:19:41,876 just keep your head down and do the work. 323 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:45,836 Thanks. Uh, Phil, can I ask you sort of an odd question? 324 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,273 Shoot. 325 00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:50,885 Does the name Wilbur Tennant ring a bell? 326 00:19:50,928 --> 00:19:53,235 -Tennet, did you say? -Tennant. 327 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:55,455 No, not that I recall. 328 00:19:55,498 --> 00:19:57,631 Mr. Tennant's a-a farmer from West Virginia. 329 00:19:57,674 --> 00:20:00,764 His property abuts one of your landfills, Dry Run. 330 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:02,766 And his cows have been getting sick, 331 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:04,855 he thinks possibly because of the runoff 332 00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:06,683 from the landfill into his creek. 333 00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:08,772 You're kidding. How did this come to you? 334 00:20:08,816 --> 00:20:10,209 -KIM: Hey, Phil. -PHIL: Uh... 335 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,907 He's a... a farmer. He's... 336 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:14,474 My grandmother's from Parkersburg. 337 00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:15,866 Really? 338 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:17,216 Washington Works. Great plant. 339 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:18,478 Right. She knows the Tennants. 340 00:20:18,521 --> 00:20:19,783 So, Grandma's on your back, huh? 341 00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:21,045 -Something like that. -Mm-hmm. 342 00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:22,743 Anyway, uh... 343 00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:25,224 the farmer said the EPA came out, took a look around. 344 00:20:25,267 --> 00:20:26,573 I-I wondered... 345 00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:28,357 -The name of the landfill again? -Dry Run. 346 00:20:28,401 --> 00:20:30,272 Dry Run. Dry... 347 00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,883 You know, that does ring a bell, now that you mention it. 348 00:20:32,927 --> 00:20:34,755 We may have even sent some folks out there, 349 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:36,800 if I remember correctly, to help EPA check it out. 350 00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:38,280 Th-Th-That's got to be it. 351 00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:40,239 So, I-I'd love to share whatever came of that 352 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:42,458 with, uh, Mr. Tennant, help settle his nerves. 353 00:20:42,502 --> 00:20:45,287 Absolutely. Soon as I'm back in Wilmington, I'll take a look. 354 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:46,984 Thanks, Phil. I-I really appreciate it. 355 00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:48,638 Happy to do it. 356 00:20:48,682 --> 00:20:51,989 Now, let's get a drink and toast you, my friend. You. 357 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,817 -: All right. -Okay, then. 358 00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:03,653 Mr. Tennant! 359 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:12,488 Mr. Tennant. 360 00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,664 I have the report. 361 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:17,711 Sons of bitches. 362 00:21:17,754 --> 00:21:19,626 Who the hell they think they are? 363 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:21,149 Who gives them the right?! 364 00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:23,369 -It's an evaluation. -"Evalu..." 365 00:21:23,412 --> 00:21:25,675 Hatchet job's what it is. 366 00:21:25,719 --> 00:21:27,851 I've been farming my entire life. 367 00:21:27,895 --> 00:21:29,200 Entire life! 368 00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:30,680 You read that. 369 00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:32,378 You tell me you recognize my farm. 370 00:21:32,421 --> 00:21:34,684 -Mr. Tennant... -Read it! 371 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:39,341 "The herd health investigation 372 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:42,388 "revealed deficiency in herd management, 373 00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:45,826 "including poor nutrition, 374 00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:48,568 "inadequate veterinary care 375 00:21:48,611 --> 00:21:50,744 and lack of fly control." 376 00:21:50,787 --> 00:21:52,528 You see any flies here? 377 00:21:53,660 --> 00:21:55,662 It's snowing. 378 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:58,882 Can't stop making excuses for 'em, can you? 379 00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:02,059 It could be pests. They-they consulted a vet. 380 00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:04,323 Whose vet? DuPont?! 381 00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:08,370 Look at yourself. 382 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:10,677 Swallowing whole whatever they've been feeding you. 383 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,722 Can't tell truth from lie. 384 00:22:14,289 --> 00:22:16,247 You even watch them tapes I gave you? 385 00:22:16,291 --> 00:22:18,380 Sir, I am trying to help. 386 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:19,642 Quiet. 387 00:22:19,686 --> 00:22:21,383 -Trying to help. 388 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:23,254 Stop moving. 389 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:33,221 -Easy, now. Easy. 390 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:37,356 Get in. 391 00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:39,183 Slow. 392 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:05,775 Forgive me, girl. 393 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,062 WILBUR: Jesus. 394 00:24:26,552 --> 00:24:29,337 RADIO DJ: Need something to warm you up right about now? 395 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:31,513 Well, how about this? 396 00:24:35,082 --> 00:24:37,954 ♪ Almost heaven 397 00:24:37,998 --> 00:24:40,870 ♪ West Virginia 398 00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:43,220 ♪ Blue Ridge Mountains 399 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:47,747 ♪ Shenandoah River 400 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:50,358 ♪ Life is old there 401 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:53,187 ♪ Older than the trees 402 00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:56,190 ♪ Younger than the mountains 403 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,540 ♪ Growing like a breeze 404 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:01,108 ♪ Country roads 405 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:04,111 ♪ Take me home 406 00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:07,244 ♪ To the place 407 00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:10,030 ♪ I belong 408 00:25:10,073 --> 00:25:12,946 ♪ West Virginia 409 00:25:12,989 --> 00:25:16,036 ♪ Mountain mama... 410 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,473 WILBUR: One thing or another. 411 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,345 This cow's eyes are cloudy with... 412 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:23,565 the pink eye is what they'll call it. 413 00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:26,394 Anyway, her eyes are sunk way back in her head. 414 00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:29,789 - -She's poor as a whip-poor-will. 415 00:25:31,181 --> 00:25:32,792 And I'm gonna cut her open 416 00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:36,709 and find out what caused her to... to die. 417 00:25:36,752 --> 00:25:38,798 'Cause I was feeding her enough feed 418 00:25:38,841 --> 00:25:40,364 that she should've gained weight 419 00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:42,149 instead of losing weight. 420 00:25:42,192 --> 00:25:45,587 This is what her teeth looks like. 421 00:25:45,631 --> 00:25:48,503 -That's the upper one. 422 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,549 But this one here, 423 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:54,074 I've never seen any-anything like it in my lifetime. 424 00:25:54,117 --> 00:25:56,555 Even the veterinarian, he'd been in it, 425 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:58,557 he would've never saw anything like this before 426 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,559 in his life, either. 427 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:12,745 TOM: So, what... 428 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:14,616 are you proposing we do? 429 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,749 File a claim, trigger discovery, 430 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,316 and find out what's in that landfill. 431 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,362 You want to sue DuPont? 432 00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:23,669 Targeted. Property dispute. 433 00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:25,279 -Routine stuff. -Not routine. 434 00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:26,802 Not around here. 435 00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:29,283 I know, but, Tom, if you'd actually seen it. 436 00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:31,415 H-His farm is like a graveyard. 437 00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:33,374 There-there's something very wrong. 438 00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:35,855 So he should hire a local lawyer. 439 00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:37,378 None of them will do it. 440 00:26:37,421 --> 00:26:39,423 Th-They're all terrified of DuPont. 441 00:26:39,467 --> 00:26:42,078 -Well, what does that tell you? -We know DuPont. 442 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:43,906 They're gonna want to hear if 443 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:45,691 some of their local guys are screwing something up. 444 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:49,390 Oh, oh, oh, so-so-so they're gonna thank us for suing them? 445 00:26:49,433 --> 00:26:51,174 Better us than the EPA. 446 00:26:51,218 --> 00:26:52,741 I mean, new partners are supposed to 447 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:54,047 bring in business, right? 448 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:56,527 So your farmer can swing $275 an hour? 449 00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:58,704 It'd be, uh, on-on contingency. 450 00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:00,096 Jesus. 451 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:02,011 What are we, coupon chasers now? 452 00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:04,623 It's a small matter for a family friend. 453 00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:06,755 I'll get in, and I'll get out. 454 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,539 Help a guy who needs it. 455 00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:11,064 Who? The farmer or you? 456 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,999 Surgical. You hear me? 457 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:36,089 Absolutely. Thank you. 458 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,917 PHIL : Come on, Rob. 459 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,919 Of course I'm gonna take your call. 460 00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:41,660 Even though I was, I admit, 461 00:27:41,703 --> 00:27:42,878 a little surprised. 462 00:27:42,922 --> 00:27:45,707 I mean, getting sued by Taft Law? 463 00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:48,710 It's not every day-- or any day, frankly. 464 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,364 I know. I'm sorry. 465 00:27:50,407 --> 00:27:53,846 Look, you and I are friends. This is a minor issue. 466 00:27:53,889 --> 00:27:55,891 No reason it should get messy. 467 00:27:55,935 --> 00:27:58,720 ROB: Uh, thank you. I, uh, totally agree. 468 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:02,245 -Yeah, I'm putting you on speakerphone. - 469 00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:05,335 PHIL: So, you want to know if we violated our permits. 470 00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:06,989 Pretty much, yeah. 471 00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:09,252 PHIL: Okay, then. I'll have our guys send over 472 00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:12,168 anything related to hazardous waste at Dry Run, 473 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:15,258 and I'll tell them to hurry it up this time. 474 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:16,738 -How's that? -ROB: Thank you. 475 00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:18,522 -That sounds great. -PHIL: And don't stress. 476 00:28:18,566 --> 00:28:21,264 -I forgive you. -ROB: Thanks, Phil. 477 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:44,505 You took your baby into the office. 478 00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:46,463 I needed a bigger trunk. 479 00:28:46,507 --> 00:28:48,030 Why? 480 00:28:48,074 --> 00:28:50,903 -Discovery for the Tennant case came in today. -Oh. 481 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:52,513 SARAH: Oh, you started before me. 482 00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:54,210 -You're so fast! -Oh, you like that? 483 00:28:54,254 --> 00:28:55,734 What do you think about that? 484 00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:57,474 -SARAH'S MOM: Good boy. 485 00:28:57,518 --> 00:28:59,912 Rob's missing such a lovely day. 486 00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:02,131 Law's a jealous mistress, Mom. 487 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:03,742 Means it comes with the territory. 488 00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:05,308 -Let's go over here! 489 00:29:05,352 --> 00:29:06,701 SARAH'S BROTHER: Nice! Thank you. 490 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,616 That's what I'm talking about right there. 491 00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:09,791 SPORTSCASTER: No score, just underway 492 00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:11,575 in the top of the first. 493 00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,534 BROTHER: All right, let's go. One more, one more. 494 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,101 All right. 495 00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:34,598 "Poly." 496 00:29:34,642 --> 00:29:36,252 What's that? 497 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:54,357 No. 498 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,620 -Mm... 499 00:30:00,711 --> 00:30:02,365 KIM: How's my favorite plaintiff's attorney? 500 00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:04,150 Hey, help me out, will you? 501 00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:06,239 You're a run-of-a-mill dump, nothing but trash. 502 00:30:06,282 --> 00:30:07,936 You sound like my first girlfriend. 503 00:30:09,677 --> 00:30:13,855 Why a requisition order for 55-gallon containers? 504 00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,465 Conspiracy. 505 00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:16,858 Standard-size drums. 506 00:30:16,902 --> 00:30:18,817 Ash, ash by-product, 507 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:20,340 glass tubing, plastic, paper waste. 508 00:30:20,383 --> 00:30:21,776 It's just trash. 509 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,647 You pile it onto a truck, drive it away. 510 00:30:23,691 --> 00:30:24,866 You don't pack it into drums. 511 00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:26,085 So they've got liquid waste. 512 00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:27,390 Not hazardous. 513 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:28,739 Or they'd have to disclose it. 514 00:30:28,783 --> 00:30:31,046 So, what-what is killing these cows? 515 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:33,832 -It's not paper and ash. -Well, maybe it's human error. 516 00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:36,399 They're dumping something in there they don't know is toxic. 517 00:30:36,443 --> 00:30:38,140 Kim, it's DuPont. 518 00:30:38,184 --> 00:30:40,839 They-they know more than the EPA does. 519 00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:42,623 Everyone knows more than the EPA does. 520 00:30:42,666 --> 00:30:45,321 Why else would they let us regulate ourselves? 521 00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:48,281 What? 522 00:30:48,324 --> 00:30:49,673 Do we? 523 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:52,285 Do we what? 524 00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:55,941 The EPA only started regulating chemicals in '76. 525 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:57,943 -Yeah? -They grandfather in 526 00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:00,554 every existing chemical nonhazardous 527 00:31:00,597 --> 00:31:02,948 unless they knew it was hazardous 528 00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:04,863 or a company told them it was. 529 00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:06,777 -We're saying the same thing. -No, we're not. 530 00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:11,173 I'm saying, what if a company didn't tell? 531 00:31:12,696 --> 00:31:15,134 What if the reason 532 00:31:15,177 --> 00:31:18,441 Phil Donnelly agreed to discovery on hazardous 533 00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:21,880 is because he knows whatever's in that landfill 534 00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:23,707 isn't even regulated? 535 00:31:23,751 --> 00:31:26,972 Okay, now you are sounding like a plaintiff's attorney. 536 00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:28,538 I've got a meeting. 537 00:31:28,582 --> 00:31:30,018 Hey. Oh, wait one second. 538 00:31:30,062 --> 00:31:34,588 Have you... have you heard of this, um, PFOA? 539 00:31:34,631 --> 00:31:35,981 No. 540 00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:37,504 Uh, you know, it's mentioned here, 541 00:31:37,547 --> 00:31:39,114 but I-I can't find anything about it 542 00:31:39,158 --> 00:31:40,594 in any of the literature. 543 00:31:40,637 --> 00:31:42,465 I don't even know if it's a chemical. 544 00:31:42,509 --> 00:31:44,032 Ask Phil. 545 00:31:44,076 --> 00:31:45,599 Well, thank you. 546 00:31:45,642 --> 00:31:47,166 SECRETARY: As I said, 547 00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:49,124 Mr. Donnelly is still out of town. 548 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:51,387 Well, I-I called last week and left two messages 549 00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:53,215 and haven't heard back from him. 550 00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:55,217 SECRETARY: I will be sure to tell him that you called again. 551 00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:57,480 -Okay. Damn it. 552 00:31:57,524 --> 00:32:00,483 -Your tickets to the Chemical Alliance dinner. - 553 00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:04,313 And no, dark suit is not the same as black tie. 554 00:32:04,357 --> 00:32:05,793 Wouldn't he be going? 555 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:38,304 I don't know if Rob told you, 556 00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:40,567 but I was a receptionist at Taft before law school. 557 00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:42,308 -Is that right? -Yeah. But, well, 558 00:32:42,351 --> 00:32:43,918 I think the right Bilott ended up there. 559 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:45,354 -Harold, you're not getting away from me. -Oh. 560 00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:46,834 -Would you excuse me? -Sure, it was... 561 00:32:46,877 --> 00:32:48,401 It's great to see you. 562 00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:49,706 Uh, when is the... 563 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,317 -That's funny. 564 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,581 Ah. Right away, I saw a little of myself in Rob. 565 00:32:54,624 --> 00:32:57,192 -Oh. -One black sheep to another. 566 00:32:57,236 --> 00:32:59,020 My dad was a steelworker, you know. 567 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:02,023 - Was he? -Yeah. -Have-have you seen Phil? 568 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:03,590 KIM: No. 569 00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:05,070 GERALD: So, you're an attorney? 570 00:33:05,113 --> 00:33:07,333 Oh, uh, recovering. 571 00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:10,292 I represented employers in workmen comp disputes, 572 00:33:10,336 --> 00:33:12,425 but now I stay at home with our baby. 573 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:14,427 Well, that's the thing with lady lawyers. 574 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:16,037 -WOMAN: Oh. Oh, Gerald! -MAN: Oh. 575 00:33:16,081 --> 00:33:18,126 I want to say hi to the Dow folks. Have you seen them? 576 00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:19,475 No, I've been... I've been looking for Phil. 577 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:20,999 Did I tell you they sent me some work? 578 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:22,783 Dow? That's great. 579 00:33:22,826 --> 00:33:24,872 Just a small project, like a tryout, 580 00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:27,962 but if I impress them, can you imagine if I brought on Dow? 581 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,921 -Uh, n-none for me, thank you. 582 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,967 ROB: You're not...? 583 00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:36,666 I'm, um... 584 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:38,233 You're...? 585 00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:41,062 -She's... You... -I'm... 586 00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:43,934 I'm gonna wait as long as I can to tell the firm, obviously. 587 00:33:43,978 --> 00:33:45,197 Would you excuse us for a moment? 588 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,633 These lady lawyers need a quick sidebar. 589 00:33:46,676 --> 00:33:47,851 -ROB: Congratulations. -KARLA: Thank you. 590 00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:49,070 -GERALD: Of course. -ROB: No, no, no... 591 00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:50,289 SARAH: He probably signs your paycheck. 592 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:52,508 -Be nice to him. -Don't leave me. 593 00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:55,120 SARAH: Congratulations. 594 00:33:55,163 --> 00:33:57,165 KARLA: I know. I can't believe it. 595 00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:03,911 Uh, uh, excuse me. 596 00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:13,964 Uh, Rob, how are you? 597 00:34:14,008 --> 00:34:15,618 Yeah, Phil, I've been... been trying to reach you. 598 00:34:15,662 --> 00:34:16,793 So sorry, all this traveling. 599 00:34:16,837 --> 00:34:18,056 How about I give you a shout tomorrow? 600 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:19,535 We're gonna need to broaden discovery 601 00:34:19,579 --> 00:34:21,755 to everything in that landfill, hazardous or not. 602 00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:23,931 TOM: Turns out, good lawyer. Turned out... 603 00:34:24,975 --> 00:34:27,108 Excuse me. 604 00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:28,892 You kidding me? 605 00:34:28,936 --> 00:34:32,113 ROB: No. Um... 606 00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,724 I-I think whatever's causing problems in there 607 00:34:34,768 --> 00:34:38,032 isn't something the EPA regulates or knows to regulate. 608 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,425 Sorry? 609 00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:41,209 I'm-I'm seeing things in your documents 610 00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:42,776 I don't understand. 611 00:34:42,819 --> 00:34:44,473 Y-You're seeing ghosts is what you're seeing. 612 00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:46,475 And, frankly, you're making an ass of yourself. 613 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,129 O-Okay, then... then help me out. 614 00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:49,783 I mean... I mean, like this. 615 00:34:49,826 --> 00:34:53,569 I mean, what... what is this, uh, PFOA? 616 00:34:53,613 --> 00:34:56,790 -What's that stand for? 617 00:34:56,833 --> 00:34:58,705 Jesus. 618 00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:01,055 You're on a goddamn fishing expedition. 619 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,101 You want to... you want to flush your career 620 00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:04,754 down the toilet for some cowhand? 621 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:06,756 Be my guest. I'm done helping you. 622 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,542 Phil, I need to insist on broadening discovery. 623 00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:12,066 -Sue me! -I'm... 624 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,329 -already suing you. -STEVE: Welcome, everyone, 625 00:35:14,373 --> 00:35:17,332 to the 14th annual Ohio Chemical Alliance... 626 00:35:17,376 --> 00:35:19,769 -Fuck you! -...awards dinner. 627 00:35:21,858 --> 00:35:23,730 Hick. 628 00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:30,519 STEVE: So, let's get the fun started! 629 00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:52,150 I'm sorry. 630 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:55,327 SARAH: You're not the only one who's sacrificed. 631 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:03,291 I just hope you know what you're doing. 632 00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:12,082 You know the difference between business and pleasure, right? 633 00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:14,084 So, why on earth would you engage 634 00:36:14,128 --> 00:36:16,913 in business conversations at a public function? 635 00:36:16,957 --> 00:36:19,220 ROB: Tom. He's hiding something. 636 00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:20,700 You saw his reaction. 637 00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:22,615 Yeah, me and everyone in that room. 638 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,399 Taft in a pissing match with DuPont. 639 00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:26,445 I am gonna get a court order and force them 640 00:36:26,488 --> 00:36:28,229 to tell me everything that's in that landfill. 641 00:36:28,273 --> 00:36:30,536 Jesus Christ, now you want to actually take them to court. 642 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:32,494 And I'm gonna need local counsel in West Virginia. 643 00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:34,235 What happened to routine stuff? 644 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:36,542 -Get in, get out? God! -Ask Phil Donnelly. 645 00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:38,326 LARRY: Of course I remember you. 646 00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:41,721 Yeah, last time I saw you, I think Phil Donnelly 647 00:36:41,764 --> 00:36:43,636 was trying to get you to go out on the links with us. 648 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,290 -: Yeah. -ROB: Actually I'm suing him 649 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:48,031 and I was looking for some advice on local counsel. 650 00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:49,946 You what? 651 00:37:02,959 --> 00:37:05,135 -Larry. -Thank you. 652 00:37:10,706 --> 00:37:12,534 -Good morning. -Okay. 653 00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:17,147 -Good morning, Larry. -Morning. 654 00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:25,504 Morning, Miss Claire. 655 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:27,593 Don't you look nice. 656 00:37:27,636 --> 00:37:29,769 Save it for the judge, Mr. Winter. 657 00:37:33,076 --> 00:37:35,818 CLAIRE: You're suing DuPont. 658 00:37:37,516 --> 00:37:39,474 LARRY: Yes, ma'am. 659 00:37:39,518 --> 00:37:41,433 You represent DuPont. 660 00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:42,869 My old firm did. 661 00:37:42,912 --> 00:37:44,914 I've been out on my own for a while. 662 00:37:46,176 --> 00:37:48,178 Good luck with that. 663 00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:54,576 PHIL: Just wanted to let you know personally 664 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:58,276 that your court-ordered discovery is on the way. 665 00:37:58,319 --> 00:37:59,886 Thanks, Phil. 666 00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:02,454 No, it's my pleasure. 667 00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:05,805 Discovery. 668 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,778 Son of a bitch. 669 00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:25,607 All right, no admission of liability. 670 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:28,306 -And non... 671 00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:33,267 Nondisclosure of any and all terms. 672 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,052 Pardon me a moment. 673 00:38:50,937 --> 00:38:52,678 Thanks. 674 00:38:52,721 --> 00:38:55,637 Holy Jesus. 675 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:58,510 -What in the... -Thanks. 676 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,381 ...world? 677 00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:02,427 I guess the joke's on me. 678 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:04,254 -Yeah. -Hmm. 679 00:39:04,298 --> 00:39:05,908 No one can go through all this crap, 680 00:39:05,952 --> 00:39:07,519 not in a million years. 681 00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:09,869 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they're banking on. 682 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:14,221 -ROB: Oh, goddamn it! -Oh, God, Rob. 683 00:39:18,704 --> 00:39:20,706 -Here, let me... -No, no, no, you... 684 00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:23,056 you shouldn't be around this stuff. 685 00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:24,318 You sure? 686 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:25,537 I'm-I'm positive. 687 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:26,799 Thank you, though. 688 00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:29,192 Yeah. 689 00:39:29,236 --> 00:39:31,151 Good luck. 690 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:49,996 Yeah. 691 00:39:51,998 --> 00:39:54,000 1957. 692 00:39:56,132 --> 00:39:57,656 Yeah. 693 00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:03,939 Hey, Bobby. How you... 694 00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:05,463 What are you having? 695 00:41:06,725 --> 00:41:09,554 Usual. 696 00:41:09,597 --> 00:41:12,600 Eggs over, bacon and grits. 697 00:41:12,644 --> 00:41:14,341 Same. 698 00:41:18,954 --> 00:41:21,174 BOBBY: I need two over, grits, twice. 699 00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:32,620 WILBUR: Wilbur Tennant. 700 00:41:32,664 --> 00:41:34,013 KATHLEEN: He's not in his office. 701 00:41:34,056 --> 00:41:35,884 -Can I take a message? -I been leaving messages. 702 00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:37,799 I know, Mr. Tennant, but he really can't 703 00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:40,062 -get to the phone right now. -I want service! 704 00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:41,803 I'll let him know that you called again. 705 00:41:41,847 --> 00:41:44,240 -WILBUR: For Christ's sakes. 706 00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:48,070 Is she getting accustomed to being at Mom and Dad's? 707 00:41:48,114 --> 00:41:49,463 BETH : Well, you know Grammer. 708 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:51,421 -She misses her own house. -What? Uh... 709 00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:53,162 BETH: She misses her own house. 710 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:54,903 ROB: Um, I have a bad cell. 711 00:41:54,947 --> 00:41:57,210 I said Grammer misses her own house. 712 00:41:57,253 --> 00:42:00,213 Okay, can... can you... can I talk to her? 713 00:42:00,256 --> 00:42:02,171 Well, she and Mom are at the doctor's. 714 00:42:02,215 --> 00:42:03,956 Will you... will you tell Grammers I called? 715 00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:05,566 Rob, you're-you're breaking... you're breaking... 716 00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:07,568 -ROB: And Mom, too. -Let's try again on Sunday. 717 00:42:07,612 --> 00:42:09,178 ROB: All right. 718 00:42:16,055 --> 00:42:18,057 ROB: "C-8." 719 00:42:23,976 --> 00:42:25,804 You know you look like a crazy person, right? 720 00:42:25,847 --> 00:42:28,676 Wh-What was the name of that... that guy that you brought by? 721 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,243 -The, um... -What guy? 722 00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:32,767 The-the-the... th-th-the chemistry expert. 723 00:42:32,811 --> 00:42:35,161 -The guy who does the models. -Gillespie. 724 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:39,644 Here you go. 725 00:42:39,687 --> 00:42:41,428 -Thank you. -Mm-hmm. 726 00:42:41,471 --> 00:42:43,778 Kim Burke had an expense account. 727 00:42:43,822 --> 00:42:45,084 Oh, sorry. 728 00:42:45,127 --> 00:42:46,651 -It's not that kind of case. -Hmm. 729 00:42:46,694 --> 00:42:50,872 Are you familiar with something called PFOA? 730 00:42:52,134 --> 00:42:53,962 No. 731 00:42:55,964 --> 00:42:58,140 No. No. 732 00:42:58,184 --> 00:43:02,188 I did read something recently about a PFOS, I think it was. 733 00:43:02,231 --> 00:43:03,755 That-that sounds related. 734 00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:06,888 ROB: And what was that? 735 00:43:06,932 --> 00:43:09,630 Long-chain fluorocarbon, synthetic. 736 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:11,414 I'm sorry. 737 00:43:11,458 --> 00:43:14,026 Chemistry was my worst class in high school. 738 00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:16,768 : Boy, you in the wrong line of work. 739 00:43:16,811 --> 00:43:19,118 Tell me about it. So? 740 00:43:19,161 --> 00:43:20,598 So, synthetic. 741 00:43:20,641 --> 00:43:22,164 -Right? Man-made. -Mm-hmm. 742 00:43:22,208 --> 00:43:25,167 -Uh, Frankenstein. - And? 743 00:43:25,211 --> 00:43:27,692 Um, long-chain fluorocarbon 744 00:43:27,735 --> 00:43:31,739 is a sequence of carbon atoms, add a fluoride. 745 00:43:31,783 --> 00:43:35,438 All right, in-in the lab, you take a-a carbon atom. 746 00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:39,399 -Mm-hmm. -And then you add another carbon atom. 747 00:43:39,442 --> 00:43:42,620 And then another and another. 748 00:43:42,663 --> 00:43:44,056 Look. 749 00:43:44,099 --> 00:43:47,494 Y-You're making a chain, right? 750 00:43:49,888 --> 00:43:51,193 Right? 751 00:43:51,237 --> 00:43:53,587 ROB: Could it be... eight? 752 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:54,806 Eight carbons? 753 00:43:54,849 --> 00:43:56,111 GILLESPIE: Well, sure. Yeah. 754 00:43:56,155 --> 00:43:58,200 In the lab, you can do almost anything. 755 00:43:58,244 --> 00:44:00,638 ROB: And why-why would you want to? 756 00:44:00,681 --> 00:44:03,162 Make this, I mean. 757 00:44:03,205 --> 00:44:05,904 Well, a chain like that's pretty much unbreakable, 758 00:44:05,947 --> 00:44:07,514 biochemically speaking. 759 00:44:07,557 --> 00:44:11,083 So, uh, industrial uses, I imagine. 760 00:44:11,126 --> 00:44:12,911 3M made it. 761 00:44:12,954 --> 00:44:15,522 They don't anymore. That's what I read. 762 00:44:15,565 --> 00:44:17,350 And why did they stop? 763 00:44:17,393 --> 00:44:19,308 Didn't say. 764 00:44:20,527 --> 00:44:22,877 What if... 765 00:44:22,921 --> 00:44:25,140 What if you drank it? 766 00:44:27,012 --> 00:44:28,666 Drank it? 767 00:44:28,709 --> 00:44:30,319 You don't. 768 00:44:30,363 --> 00:44:32,365 -But what if you did? -WAITRESS: Ready to order? 769 00:44:32,408 --> 00:44:34,541 -Yeah, I think I'd like a, um... -Wait, what... 770 00:44:34,584 --> 00:44:35,890 What if you did? 771 00:44:37,587 --> 00:44:40,895 That's like saying, "What if I swallowed a tire?" 772 00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:42,462 I don't know. 773 00:44:42,505 --> 00:44:45,160 You want to be the guy that finds out? 774 00:44:45,204 --> 00:44:46,684 Tuna melt. 775 00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:07,313 PREACHER: Let us all begin 776 00:45:07,356 --> 00:45:10,751 with hymn number 452 in our hymnal books: 777 00:45:10,795 --> 00:45:12,753 "Here I Am, Lord." 778 00:45:12,797 --> 00:45:14,624 Please rise. 779 00:45:16,975 --> 00:45:18,716 CONGREGATION: ♪ I, the Lord 780 00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:21,806 ♪ Of sea and sky 781 00:45:21,849 --> 00:45:23,677 ♪ I have heard 782 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,767 ♪ My people cry 783 00:45:26,811 --> 00:45:28,726 ♪ All who dwell 784 00:45:28,769 --> 00:45:31,598 ♪ In deepest sin 785 00:45:31,641 --> 00:45:36,298 ♪ My hand will save 786 00:45:36,342 --> 00:45:38,170 ♪ I have made... 787 00:45:38,213 --> 00:45:39,737 TEDDY: It makes sounds here. 788 00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,651 FEMALE VOICE : Asteroid ahead. 789 00:45:43,958 --> 00:45:46,613 MALE VOICE : Are you ready to blast off? 790 00:45:59,234 --> 00:46:01,846 TEDDY: I'm taking off that. 791 00:46:32,267 --> 00:46:34,226 ROB: You said it had fluoride? 792 00:46:34,269 --> 00:46:36,315 GILLESPIE : What? Mr. Bilott, it's Sunday. 793 00:46:36,358 --> 00:46:39,187 That chemical, you said it had a fluoride atom. 794 00:46:39,231 --> 00:46:42,147 It's a fluorocarbon, so yes. 795 00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:43,626 Somewhere along the chain... 796 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:45,933 What would it do to your teeth if you drank it? 797 00:46:45,977 --> 00:46:47,326 Don't-don't tell me if you shouldn't. 798 00:46:47,369 --> 00:46:49,415 If you did-- if you drank a lot of it, 799 00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,156 what would it do to your teeth? 800 00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,245 Well, in trace amounts, fluoride hardens teeth, 801 00:46:53,288 --> 00:46:55,421 but-but too much, it's gonna stain 'em. 802 00:46:55,464 --> 00:46:59,207 I mean, even turn 'em black. 803 00:46:59,251 --> 00:47:02,123 So, can I get back to my family now? 804 00:47:05,692 --> 00:47:07,737 Whoa, what? Where-where are you going? 805 00:47:07,781 --> 00:47:10,958 -It's in their water. -What? What is? 806 00:47:47,516 --> 00:47:50,519 DOCTOR: How long's the coughing been? 807 00:47:50,563 --> 00:47:53,696 WILBUR: Couple... couple months. 808 00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:56,743 -A year. -DOCTOR: You a smoker? 809 00:47:56,786 --> 00:47:59,789 No. 810 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:02,575 Roll up your sleeve. We're gonna take some blood. 811 00:48:16,676 --> 00:48:18,373 WILBUR: Thought you left him inside. 812 00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:20,419 SANDRA: I did. 813 00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:26,120 Oh, baby. 814 00:48:34,737 --> 00:48:36,696 You move this? 815 00:48:36,739 --> 00:48:38,350 What? 816 00:48:38,393 --> 00:48:39,917 Did you go through this? 817 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,527 No. 818 00:48:45,661 --> 00:48:49,665 They been here. They been here. 819 00:49:18,303 --> 00:49:20,870 AMY: What happened? 820 00:49:20,914 --> 00:49:22,872 Wash up. 821 00:49:31,577 --> 00:49:33,013 CRYSTAL: Dad? 822 00:49:35,711 --> 00:49:37,496 -AMY: What is it? -Quiet. 823 00:49:46,331 --> 00:49:48,724 WILBUR: This is my land, damn you! 824 00:49:48,768 --> 00:49:50,552 You get out of here! 825 00:49:50,596 --> 00:49:51,945 Go on! 826 00:49:53,077 --> 00:49:54,382 Go on! 827 00:49:55,862 --> 00:49:57,733 -Sandra, girls, go on! -What's going on? 828 00:49:57,777 --> 00:50:00,084 Go on, get in! Get in! 829 00:50:01,868 --> 00:50:04,044 I know you! 830 00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:17,177 Rob? 831 00:52:42,507 --> 00:52:44,857 Holy crap. Rob! 832 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:46,511 What? 833 00:52:46,554 --> 00:52:49,078 I thought someone was breaking in, for God's sakes! 834 00:52:49,122 --> 00:52:51,124 -No, it's just-just me. -Rob, you need to tell me 835 00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:53,387 what in the hell's going on. 836 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,870 We're being poisoned. 837 00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:01,395 -Rob. -What? 838 00:53:01,439 --> 00:53:02,701 I'm-- I mean it. 839 00:53:02,744 --> 00:53:05,182 DuPont is knowingly poisoning us. 840 00:53:05,225 --> 00:53:08,141 You mean the farmer, his land. 841 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:11,057 All of us. 842 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,102 Please don't look at me like that. 843 00:53:14,495 --> 00:53:18,238 They're already poisoning the baby. 844 00:53:18,282 --> 00:53:20,240 No. No, I'm not listening to this. 845 00:53:20,284 --> 00:53:22,721 -Sarah. -Stop it! Just stop it, okay?! 846 00:53:22,764 --> 00:53:24,026 Do you hear yourself? 847 00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:26,420 You are acting like a crazy person. 848 00:53:26,464 --> 00:53:29,510 Tearing up our floor, scaring me half to death. 849 00:53:29,554 --> 00:53:31,295 I know it's my job to support you, 850 00:53:31,338 --> 00:53:33,732 but that does not mean you get to come into our home, 851 00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:35,168 to our family, and tell me 852 00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:37,214 that our unborn child is being poisoned. 853 00:53:37,257 --> 00:53:39,216 -No! -I'm sorry. 854 00:53:39,259 --> 00:53:41,130 -Can I please explain? -Explain what?! 855 00:53:41,174 --> 00:53:42,741 All of it. 856 00:53:42,784 --> 00:53:45,744 And if-if you still think I'm crazy, I'll drop it. 857 00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:47,702 I swear to God. 858 00:53:49,138 --> 00:53:51,097 I swear to you. 859 00:54:07,331 --> 00:54:10,725 There is a man-made chemical. 860 00:54:10,769 --> 00:54:13,380 It was invented during the Manhattan Project. 861 00:54:13,424 --> 00:54:15,643 It repelled the elements, 862 00:54:15,687 --> 00:54:17,254 especially water. 863 00:54:17,297 --> 00:54:19,778 So they used it to make the first ever 864 00:54:19,821 --> 00:54:21,562 waterproof coating for tanks. 865 00:54:21,606 --> 00:54:23,303 It was indestructible. 866 00:54:23,347 --> 00:54:27,612 Then some companies thought, "Hey, why just the battlefield? 867 00:54:27,655 --> 00:54:31,006 Why not bring this chemical into American homes?" 868 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:32,356 SECRETARY: Rob's here. 869 00:54:32,399 --> 00:54:34,271 TOM : All right, good. 870 00:54:34,314 --> 00:54:36,011 SECRETARY: He'll see you now. 871 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,627 ROB: DuPont was one of those companies. 872 00:54:42,670 --> 00:54:45,717 So they took this chemical, PFOA, 873 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,719 they renamed it C-8, 874 00:54:47,762 --> 00:54:51,157 and they made their own impenetrable coating, 875 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,159 but not for tanks. 876 00:54:53,202 --> 00:54:55,422 For pans. 877 00:54:55,466 --> 00:54:58,295 They called it Teflon. 878 00:54:58,338 --> 00:55:01,994 A shining symbol of American ingenuity 879 00:55:02,037 --> 00:55:06,259 made right here in the USA in Parkersburg, West Virginia. 880 00:55:07,826 --> 00:55:10,872 But right from the start, something wasn't right. 881 00:55:10,916 --> 00:55:14,311 The men and workers who made Teflon 882 00:55:14,354 --> 00:55:16,530 were coming down with nausea, fevers. 883 00:55:16,574 --> 00:55:18,619 DuPont wanted to know why. 884 00:55:18,663 --> 00:55:21,230 So they laced cigarettes with Teflon. 885 00:55:21,274 --> 00:55:24,756 They told a group of the workers, "Hey, smoke these." 886 00:55:24,799 --> 00:55:27,889 DuPonters did as they were told. 887 00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:30,501 Almost all those men were hospitalized. 888 00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:36,811 That's 1962, 889 00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:41,163 one year after Teflon launched, and already DuPont knew. 890 00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:43,862 The dust, they just sent right up the smokestacks, 891 00:55:43,905 --> 00:55:45,864 released into the air. 892 00:55:45,907 --> 00:55:48,432 The sludge, tossed it into the Ohio. 893 00:55:48,475 --> 00:55:50,303 Or, uh, packed into drums 894 00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:53,306 and-and-and chucked it into the Chesapeake. 895 00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:55,917 But then the drums started washing up. 896 00:55:55,961 --> 00:55:57,571 So DuPont starts 897 00:55:57,615 --> 00:56:00,661 digging ditches on the grounds of the Washington Works plant. 898 00:56:00,705 --> 00:56:02,837 And in those pits, they dumped 899 00:56:02,881 --> 00:56:06,493 thousands of tons of toxic C-8 sludge and dust. 900 00:56:06,537 --> 00:56:09,931 One of the men that they hired to dig those ditches 901 00:56:09,975 --> 00:56:12,934 was Wilbur Tennant's brother Jim. 902 00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:16,024 But they weren't the only ones covering their tracks. 903 00:56:16,068 --> 00:56:20,377 3M, who-who pioneered these chemicals for Scotchgard, 904 00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:21,900 they were testing them on monkeys. 905 00:56:21,943 --> 00:56:23,423 Most of the monkeys died. 906 00:56:23,467 --> 00:56:25,730 It wasn't like DuPont didn't know that, 907 00:56:25,773 --> 00:56:29,777 because they were doing their own tests on rats. 908 00:56:29,821 --> 00:56:32,824 Watched their organs balloon. 909 00:56:32,867 --> 00:56:35,130 Now the rats are getting cancers. 910 00:56:35,174 --> 00:56:38,786 Tested them on pregnant rats and watched them give birth 911 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:41,310 to pups with deformed eyes. 912 00:56:41,354 --> 00:56:43,965 So they yanked all the young women 913 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:47,055 off the Teflon line, never told them why. 914 00:56:51,538 --> 00:56:55,673 Sue Bailey's job was scrubbing these huge steel vats 915 00:56:55,716 --> 00:56:57,501 where they held the liquid C-8. 916 00:56:57,544 --> 00:56:58,850 She was pregnant. 917 00:56:58,893 --> 00:57:00,634 ROB: I love you. 918 00:57:00,678 --> 00:57:03,289 SARAH : Would you stop? 919 00:57:03,332 --> 00:57:05,987 ROB: She gave birth to a baby 920 00:57:06,031 --> 00:57:08,250 with one nostril and a deformed eye. 921 00:57:08,294 --> 00:57:12,254 Remember how DuPont had seen those deformities in the rats? 922 00:57:14,256 --> 00:57:15,562 Oh, God. 923 00:57:15,606 --> 00:57:17,129 ROB: What about his eyes? 924 00:57:17,172 --> 00:57:19,261 -Blue, just like all newborns. 925 00:57:19,305 --> 00:57:21,438 But they're normal-- the lids, the-the pupils? 926 00:57:21,481 --> 00:57:24,005 -Mr. Bilott, relax. 927 00:57:24,049 --> 00:57:25,485 -He's perfect. 928 00:57:25,529 --> 00:57:26,573 Ah, hey. 929 00:57:26,617 --> 00:57:28,053 Hi, Charlie. 930 00:57:28,096 --> 00:57:31,230 ROB: So Sue goes to DuPont. 931 00:57:31,273 --> 00:57:33,885 She says, "Why did you pull me off the Teflon line? 932 00:57:33,928 --> 00:57:36,757 Did C-8 make my baby this way?" 933 00:57:36,801 --> 00:57:39,020 "No," they tell her. 934 00:57:39,064 --> 00:57:43,155 Then all of her records from her time at Teflon disappear. 935 00:57:43,198 --> 00:57:48,203 One year later, they put all of the women back on Teflon 936 00:57:48,247 --> 00:57:51,468 and never say a thing. 937 00:57:57,082 --> 00:57:58,518 He's here. 938 00:58:02,696 --> 00:58:05,177 ROB: DuPont knew everything. 939 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:06,483 They knew 940 00:58:06,526 --> 00:58:09,094 that the C-8 they put into the air 941 00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:11,183 and buried into the ground for decades 942 00:58:11,226 --> 00:58:12,967 was causing cancers. 943 00:58:13,011 --> 00:58:14,926 They knew that their own workers 944 00:58:14,969 --> 00:58:16,754 were getting these cancers. 945 00:58:16,797 --> 00:58:20,061 They knew that the consumers, too, were being exposed. 946 00:58:20,105 --> 00:58:21,889 And not just in Teflon. 947 00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:25,284 In-in paints, in fabrics, 948 00:58:25,327 --> 00:58:28,853 in, uh, raincoats, boots. 949 00:58:28,896 --> 00:58:31,246 To this day. 950 00:58:33,031 --> 00:58:34,206 ROB: For 40 years, 951 00:58:34,249 --> 00:58:37,078 you knew C-8 was poison. 952 00:58:37,122 --> 00:58:41,256 You knew the Happy Pan was a ticking time bomb. 953 00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:43,650 And you knew exactly why. 954 00:58:43,694 --> 00:58:46,435 Because C-8, it stays in us forever. 955 00:58:46,479 --> 00:58:49,221 Our bodies are incapable of breaking it down. 956 00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:53,094 And knowing all of this, still you did nothing, 957 00:58:53,138 --> 00:58:57,621 because doing something, quote, 958 00:58:57,664 --> 00:59:00,711 "would essentially put the long-term viability 959 00:59:00,754 --> 00:59:04,671 of this product segment on the line," end quote. 960 00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:10,242 You were making too much money. 961 00:59:10,285 --> 00:59:14,855 $1 billion a year just in profit, just in Teflon. 962 00:59:14,899 --> 00:59:18,859 And so you pumped millions more pounds 963 00:59:18,903 --> 00:59:22,297 of toxic C-8 into the air, into the water, 964 00:59:22,341 --> 00:59:25,605 so much so you could actually see it foam. 965 00:59:25,649 --> 00:59:27,607 C-8 was everywhere. 966 00:59:27,651 --> 00:59:31,916 There was nowhere left for you to contaminate. 967 00:59:35,484 --> 00:59:38,139 And that's when they came to Jim. 968 00:59:38,183 --> 00:59:40,577 They knew he was sick and needed the money, 969 00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,666 and they needed his land. 970 00:59:42,709 --> 00:59:46,147 And when they got it, they dug up all the C-8 971 00:59:46,191 --> 00:59:49,020 from every single pit at Washington Works-- 972 00:59:49,063 --> 00:59:52,632 14 million pounds of toxic C-8 sludge-- 973 00:59:52,676 --> 00:59:54,416 and they dumped it again. 974 00:59:54,460 --> 00:59:56,027 This time right up there. 975 00:59:56,070 --> 00:59:59,421 Steps from your creek, from your house. 976 00:59:59,465 --> 01:00:02,686 And that's what your cows have been drinking, Earl. 977 01:00:07,212 --> 01:00:09,518 Put 'em behind bars. 978 01:00:09,562 --> 01:00:11,912 Whole damn lot of 'em, rot in jail. 979 01:00:11,956 --> 01:00:14,349 I understand, believe me, but th-this is a civil case. 980 01:00:14,393 --> 01:00:16,613 The most we can hope for is damages. 981 01:00:16,656 --> 01:00:18,440 Don't want no money! 982 01:00:18,484 --> 01:00:20,181 Whole damn world need... 983 01:00:26,231 --> 01:00:28,015 ...needs to see what they done. 984 01:00:28,059 --> 01:00:30,627 You're right. They should. 985 01:00:30,670 --> 01:00:34,152 And it... and it kills me that they won't. 986 01:00:34,195 --> 01:00:37,155 But that would mean going to trial 987 01:00:37,198 --> 01:00:39,723 and proving that C-8 killed your cows. 988 01:00:39,766 --> 01:00:42,595 And every scientist who knows anything about any of this 989 01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:44,684 already works for these chemical companies. 990 01:00:44,728 --> 01:00:47,644 That's not an accident, Earl. 991 01:00:47,687 --> 01:00:51,691 Earl, these... these companies, they have all the money, 992 01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:53,954 all the time, and they'll use it. 993 01:00:53,998 --> 01:00:57,436 Trust me, I know-- I was one of them. 994 01:00:57,479 --> 01:00:59,568 You're still one of 'em. 995 01:01:03,050 --> 01:01:05,400 You-you can't be serious. 996 01:01:05,444 --> 01:01:07,794 You-you know what I put on the line here? 997 01:01:07,838 --> 01:01:09,274 You want a prize? 998 01:01:09,317 --> 01:01:11,102 Some medal 'cause, for once in your life, 999 01:01:11,145 --> 01:01:13,452 you took the side of the little guy? 1000 01:01:13,495 --> 01:01:15,062 Sorry, no prize. 1001 01:01:15,106 --> 01:01:17,238 All you get is your share of this blood money. 1002 01:01:17,282 --> 01:01:19,066 And you sleep real good tonight. 1003 01:01:19,110 --> 01:01:21,112 ROB: Talk to your family. 1004 01:01:21,155 --> 01:01:22,896 It ain't just my cows that was poisoned. 1005 01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:25,507 What you think I fed my family on? 1006 01:01:25,551 --> 01:01:27,988 Wilbur... 1007 01:01:28,032 --> 01:01:30,034 please! 1008 01:01:30,077 --> 01:01:31,775 Leave this place! 1009 01:01:33,777 --> 01:01:35,169 Start over! 1010 01:01:35,213 --> 01:01:37,519 Give your family a fighting chance! 1011 01:01:37,563 --> 01:01:39,608 Too late for that. 1012 01:01:42,394 --> 01:01:45,092 We got it, Sandra and me-- the cancer. 1013 01:01:46,572 --> 01:01:48,661 Surprise, surprise. 1014 01:02:44,282 --> 01:02:46,284 SARAH: In here. 1015 01:02:52,116 --> 01:02:54,205 How'd it go? 1016 01:02:56,337 --> 01:02:58,209 What's wrong? 1017 01:02:58,252 --> 01:03:00,341 Rob? 1018 01:03:00,385 --> 01:03:02,561 Rob, what is it? 1019 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:09,960 What happened? What happened? 1020 01:03:10,003 --> 01:03:12,353 Oh, honey, honey, honey. 1021 01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:17,358 You saw a man hurting, and... 1022 01:03:17,402 --> 01:03:19,578 ...you did the Christian thing. 1023 01:03:19,621 --> 01:03:22,276 -You helped him. -How? 1024 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,105 How? How? Either he dies penniless 1025 01:03:25,149 --> 01:03:28,369 or he lets DuPont just keep pillaging his community. 1026 01:03:28,413 --> 01:03:30,328 How is that helping? 1027 01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,812 Got to get some sleep. 1028 01:03:47,867 --> 01:03:49,782 I can't believe a freaking case settlement 1029 01:03:49,826 --> 01:03:51,436 could shut this up. 1030 01:03:53,481 --> 01:03:56,745 Have you read their confidentiality agreements? 1031 01:03:56,789 --> 01:04:00,053 You've uncovered a threat to the public. 1032 01:04:00,097 --> 01:04:02,664 This goes beyond lawyering. 1033 01:04:02,708 --> 01:04:05,015 That's... That's all I know is lawyering. 1034 01:04:05,058 --> 01:04:07,278 Fine. Then be the lawyer. 1035 01:04:07,321 --> 01:04:09,106 You know DuPont better than anyone. 1036 01:04:09,149 --> 01:04:10,977 What haven't they thought of? 1037 01:05:11,298 --> 01:05:12,952 Jesus, Mary and Joseph. 1038 01:05:12,996 --> 01:05:14,345 What is that? 1039 01:05:14,388 --> 01:05:17,870 A memo and 136 exhibits. 1040 01:05:49,728 --> 01:05:52,557 ROB: Wilbur, Sandra, this is your copy. 1041 01:06:12,185 --> 01:06:14,187 ROB: The EPA announced a public hearing 1042 01:06:14,231 --> 01:06:17,190 into this family of chemicals I've been looking into. 1043 01:06:17,234 --> 01:06:18,800 I heard about it from Tucker. 1044 01:06:18,844 --> 01:06:20,933 -TOM: "Monsanto" Tucker? -Union Carbide now. 1045 01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:23,414 He says to me, "Is it true that a Taft lawyer sent 1046 01:06:23,457 --> 01:06:25,155 "a phone book's worth of confidential DuPont documents 1047 01:06:25,198 --> 01:06:26,591 to the entire federal government?" 1048 01:06:26,634 --> 01:06:28,506 Internal documents, not... not confidential. 1049 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:30,508 -Very different. -So you're testifying. 1050 01:06:30,551 --> 01:06:32,858 I signed up to testify, and the next thing I hear is 1051 01:06:32,901 --> 01:06:35,034 DuPont has petitioned a judge 1052 01:06:35,078 --> 01:06:37,384 to stop me from testifying, from flying to D.C., 1053 01:06:37,428 --> 01:06:38,733 from even picking up the phone... 1054 01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:40,735 -They filed for a gag order. -Yes. 1055 01:06:40,779 --> 01:06:42,824 -This is what we're up against. -DAVID : Jesus. 1056 01:06:42,868 --> 01:06:44,261 -TOM: David. -I mean, come on, Tom. 1057 01:06:44,304 --> 01:06:45,958 -What do you expect? -Where do we stand? 1058 01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:47,481 Well, the judge rejected the gag order, 1059 01:06:47,525 --> 01:06:49,483 so I fly out Monday. 1060 01:06:49,527 --> 01:06:50,919 Nice. 1061 01:06:50,963 --> 01:06:53,226 I guess we'll just watch on C-SPAN. 1062 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,969 You ever do anything like this again, 1063 01:06:57,013 --> 01:07:00,581 I will cut your balls off and serve them to DuPont myself. 1064 01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:02,670 Now get out of here. 1065 01:07:05,238 --> 01:07:07,501 Good luck in Washington. 1066 01:07:07,545 --> 01:07:09,764 Thanks, Tom. 1067 01:07:09,808 --> 01:07:15,248 ROB : This material, uh, is a perfluoro, or a PFOA. 1068 01:07:15,292 --> 01:07:20,079 It's also known as FC-143, 1069 01:07:20,123 --> 01:07:23,604 ammonium perfluorooctanoate. 1070 01:07:23,648 --> 01:07:28,261 It has been shown by DuPont's own science 1071 01:07:28,305 --> 01:07:32,526 that PFOA/C-8 1072 01:07:32,570 --> 01:07:36,835 is possibly life-threatening to human health. 1073 01:07:36,878 --> 01:07:41,796 We are asking this agency to do something. 1074 01:08:03,557 --> 01:08:05,690 -...presidential election in four decades. - 1075 01:08:05,733 --> 01:08:07,561 Just look at these latest polls this morning... 1076 01:08:07,605 --> 01:08:10,303 JOE: Did you forget to pay the water bill? 1077 01:08:10,347 --> 01:08:11,783 DARLENE: What? 1078 01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:14,786 You forget to pay the water bill? 1079 01:08:14,829 --> 01:08:16,918 No. 1080 01:08:16,962 --> 01:08:19,095 We got a notice. 1081 01:08:19,138 --> 01:08:21,880 -What's it say? 1082 01:08:21,923 --> 01:08:26,145 Uh, "PFOA is a persistent chemical that is slow 1083 01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:28,321 "to be eliminated from the bloodstream 1084 01:08:28,365 --> 01:08:30,976 "of people who have been exposed to it. 1085 01:08:31,019 --> 01:08:34,762 "The DuPont Company has advised the Lubeck water district 1086 01:08:34,806 --> 01:08:36,982 "that low concentrations have been found 1087 01:08:37,025 --> 01:08:39,158 "in the district's wells. 1088 01:08:39,202 --> 01:08:40,942 "DuPont has advised the district 1089 01:08:40,986 --> 01:08:44,598 that it is confident these levels are safe." 1090 01:08:44,642 --> 01:08:46,861 What the hell does that mean? 1091 01:08:48,646 --> 01:08:50,909 JOE: A letter came last fall. 1092 01:08:50,952 --> 01:08:53,607 Made no sense to me, so I started making calls. 1093 01:08:53,651 --> 01:08:56,088 DARLENE: I told Joe, don't kick that hornet's nest. 1094 01:08:56,132 --> 01:08:59,831 It's not like we didn't know what we'd signed up for. 1095 01:08:59,874 --> 01:09:02,181 What do you mean? 1096 01:09:02,225 --> 01:09:07,186 Oh, I was married before Joe, um, to a chemist at DuPont. 1097 01:09:07,230 --> 01:09:09,145 Dream job. Paid real well. 1098 01:09:09,188 --> 01:09:10,668 And the perks. 1099 01:09:10,711 --> 01:09:12,278 Presents for no reason. 1100 01:09:12,322 --> 01:09:13,714 We'd get this catalog. 1101 01:09:13,758 --> 01:09:16,239 Just pick whatever you want. 1102 01:09:16,282 --> 01:09:18,023 And little stuff. 1103 01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:21,200 Like he'd bring home this soap, this miracle powder. 1104 01:09:21,244 --> 01:09:23,463 You put it in the washing machine or the dishwasher-- 1105 01:09:23,507 --> 01:09:25,639 just wipes stuff clean like you would not believe. 1106 01:09:25,683 --> 01:09:28,773 One day, he comes home and says, 1107 01:09:28,816 --> 01:09:30,775 "Can't bring that stuff home no more." 1108 01:09:30,818 --> 01:09:32,777 "Why?" Won't tell me. 1109 01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:35,780 Then he'd get sick for weeks. 1110 01:09:35,823 --> 01:09:38,086 The Teflon flu, the guys would call it. 1111 01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:41,220 We knew something wasn't right. 1112 01:09:41,264 --> 01:09:44,397 But this house, we bought it 1113 01:09:44,441 --> 01:09:47,618 just by showing the bank my husband's DuPont I.D. 1114 01:09:47,661 --> 01:09:49,924 Put both our kids through college. 1115 01:09:49,968 --> 01:09:52,318 Engineers. 1116 01:09:52,362 --> 01:09:55,495 In... in this town, that doesn't come without a price. 1117 01:09:55,539 --> 01:09:58,237 My brother Kenny didn't know that price. 1118 01:09:58,281 --> 01:10:00,326 He joined DuPont at 19. 1119 01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:03,199 Died on the operating table two years later. 1120 01:10:03,242 --> 01:10:04,591 Ulcerative colitis. 1121 01:10:04,635 --> 01:10:06,332 DARLENE: Just like Dan Schiller had. 1122 01:10:06,376 --> 01:10:08,900 -Who-who's Dan? -A chemist at DuPont. 1123 01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:11,294 Worked with my ex-husband. 1124 01:10:11,337 --> 01:10:13,818 JOE: And, uh, Roger, what's his name? 1125 01:10:13,861 --> 01:10:15,298 DARLENE: Wilkins, the foreman. 1126 01:10:15,341 --> 01:10:16,777 JOE: Steven Gellar. 1127 01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:18,039 Randy Field. 1128 01:10:18,083 --> 01:10:19,519 Randy's was kidney cancer. 1129 01:10:19,563 --> 01:10:21,347 -He survived. - Yeah, his wife didn't. 1130 01:10:21,391 --> 01:10:22,783 No, June's was thyroid. 1131 01:10:22,827 --> 01:10:24,524 And it was supposed to be treatable. 1132 01:10:24,568 --> 01:10:26,352 Hmm. They didn't catch it in time. 1133 01:10:26,396 --> 01:10:29,964 But th-they caught it in-in their son. 1134 01:10:30,008 --> 01:10:32,750 : Were your children born, uh, healthy? 1135 01:10:32,793 --> 01:10:35,013 -Yes. Yes, they were. -Good. 1136 01:10:35,056 --> 01:10:38,930 But... we wanted a third and couldn't. 1137 01:10:38,973 --> 01:10:40,758 I went to my doctor. 1138 01:10:40,801 --> 01:10:42,063 He says, "You need a hysterectomy. 1139 01:10:42,107 --> 01:10:43,326 You need it right away." 1140 01:10:44,588 --> 01:10:46,285 I'm so sorry. 1141 01:10:46,329 --> 01:10:49,201 Bad luck, I guess. 1142 01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:52,248 I was 36. 1143 01:10:52,291 --> 01:10:54,032 ROB: Mr. Kiger, you... 1144 01:10:54,075 --> 01:10:56,948 you think I could get a copy of that letter? 1145 01:11:07,785 --> 01:11:10,353 What's wrong with your hand? 1146 01:11:10,396 --> 01:11:13,269 Nothing. It's fine. 1147 01:11:17,447 --> 01:11:19,449 -Whoa. Rob? 1148 01:11:22,365 --> 01:11:23,844 -Rob, what are you doing? 1149 01:11:25,803 --> 01:11:27,805 I mean, it's not enough to poison these people? 1150 01:11:27,848 --> 01:11:30,024 -They got to swindle them, too? -Okay, calm down. 1151 01:11:30,068 --> 01:11:31,896 -All right? -DuPont wrote that letter, 1152 01:11:31,939 --> 01:11:33,811 not the water authority. 1153 01:11:33,854 --> 01:11:35,378 -How do you know that? -You think I don't know 1154 01:11:35,421 --> 01:11:37,728 what a DuPont letter looks like by now? 1155 01:11:37,771 --> 01:11:38,990 Okay. Okay. 1156 01:11:39,033 --> 01:11:40,557 I mean, Jesus! 1157 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,689 -It-it-it's evil, Sarah. 1158 01:11:42,733 --> 01:11:44,474 It's-it's fucking evil. 1159 01:11:44,517 --> 01:11:46,650 What's "fack"? 1160 01:11:46,693 --> 01:11:48,521 Perfect. 1161 01:11:48,565 --> 01:11:50,654 It's nothing, sweetie. It's nothing. Oh, boy. 1162 01:11:50,697 --> 01:11:52,046 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, honey. 1163 01:11:52,090 --> 01:11:53,613 SARAH: Can you give Charlie the bottle, please? 1164 01:11:53,657 --> 01:11:56,137 -Where's his bottle? -It's in the bag. Here. 1165 01:11:56,181 --> 01:11:57,443 What is all this? 1166 01:11:57,487 --> 01:11:58,749 ROB: It's from Grammer's. 1167 01:11:58,792 --> 01:12:01,839 -Left in her mailbox. 1168 01:12:01,882 --> 01:12:03,231 SARAH: "Medical claims, now and forever"? 1169 01:12:03,275 --> 01:12:04,755 -ROB: Here, bud. -SARAH: "Now and forever." 1170 01:12:04,798 --> 01:12:07,061 Is that the... that... 1171 01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:10,238 Medical monitoring-- is that... 1172 01:12:10,282 --> 01:12:12,937 I thought you said that wasn't gonna pass. 1173 01:12:15,026 --> 01:12:16,897 TOM: Morning. 1174 01:12:16,941 --> 01:12:18,377 DAVID: Morning, guys. 1175 01:12:24,775 --> 01:12:28,213 ROB: Our lead plaintiff is Mr. Joe Kiger. 1176 01:12:28,256 --> 01:12:31,216 Potential plaintiff, if the partnership approves. 1177 01:12:31,259 --> 01:12:33,784 Mr. Joe Kiger, a phys ed teacher 1178 01:12:33,827 --> 01:12:36,134 from Parkersburg, West Virginia, 1179 01:12:36,177 --> 01:12:40,443 on behalf of the 70,000 local residents 1180 01:12:40,486 --> 01:12:44,360 whose water DuPont knowingly poisoned for the last 40 years. 1181 01:12:44,403 --> 01:12:46,753 -A class action? -TOM: Let him finish. 1182 01:12:46,797 --> 01:12:49,190 ROB: The Kigers were notified 1183 01:12:49,234 --> 01:12:52,759 by their local water company that DuPont had found 1184 01:12:52,803 --> 01:12:56,415 small concentrations of C-8 in their water supply 1185 01:12:56,459 --> 01:13:01,464 but not to worry because those concentrations were safe. 1186 01:13:01,507 --> 01:13:02,726 Why? 1187 01:13:02,769 --> 01:13:05,032 Because DuPont said so. 1188 01:13:08,514 --> 01:13:11,169 This is what DuPont considers safe. 1189 01:13:11,212 --> 01:13:13,954 That's something like one drop of water 1190 01:13:13,998 --> 01:13:16,217 in an Olympic-size swimming pool. 1191 01:13:16,261 --> 01:13:20,787 In other words, even a trace of C-8 renders water unsafe. 1192 01:13:20,831 --> 01:13:24,617 But DuPont told the local water authority, "Don't worry. 1193 01:13:24,661 --> 01:13:26,532 Your wells have got even less than that." 1194 01:13:26,576 --> 01:13:28,708 -Except that was a lie. -A lie? 1195 01:13:28,752 --> 01:13:30,797 Yes. DuPont has been 1196 01:13:30,841 --> 01:13:32,930 secretly testing these wells for decades. 1197 01:13:32,973 --> 01:13:35,889 They knew they had contaminated those wells 1198 01:13:35,933 --> 01:13:38,936 up to six times that level. 1199 01:13:38,979 --> 01:13:41,373 And thanks to the Tennant case, now we know, too. 1200 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:44,376 Hold on. This stuff is unregulated, right? 1201 01:13:44,420 --> 01:13:46,247 I mean, I mean, as far as EPA's concerned, 1202 01:13:46,291 --> 01:13:48,424 -it might as well be rose petals. -Yeah. 1203 01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:51,905 The EPA hasn't set a standard-- that's true-- but DuPont did. 1204 01:13:51,949 --> 01:13:55,256 And all the law requires to win a case like this 1205 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:57,476 is to show that DuPont exceeded 1206 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,957 what DuPont itself considers safe. 1207 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,393 Self-regulation. 1208 01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:02,916 PARTNER: If what you're saying is right... 1209 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,483 -It is right. -...then why would DuPont 1210 01:14:04,527 --> 01:14:07,138 tell this water district anything at all? 1211 01:14:07,181 --> 01:14:10,750 Seems to me that they're being a good corporate citizen here. 1212 01:14:10,794 --> 01:14:13,884 That's how long you have to file suit. 1213 01:14:13,927 --> 01:14:16,147 One year from the moment you realize 1214 01:14:16,190 --> 01:14:18,497 your water's been contaminated. 1215 01:14:18,541 --> 01:14:20,499 This letter looks like 1216 01:14:20,543 --> 01:14:22,588 it's telling people their water is safe. 1217 01:14:22,632 --> 01:14:25,809 In fact, it's notifying them that it isn't. 1218 01:14:25,852 --> 01:14:28,551 -DuPont has started the clock. -DAVID: Smart. 1219 01:14:29,856 --> 01:14:31,467 We would've counseled that. 1220 01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:33,425 ROB: It was sent 11 months ago, 1221 01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:35,862 the moment they realized we knew. 1222 01:14:35,906 --> 01:14:38,256 In 30 days, they're home free. 1223 01:14:38,299 --> 01:14:41,041 So that's the proposed case in brief. 1224 01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:42,739 But there's something else to consider. 1225 01:14:42,782 --> 01:14:44,218 PARTNER 2: You think? 1226 01:14:44,262 --> 01:14:45,916 -TOM: Rob. 1227 01:14:45,959 --> 01:14:48,832 C-8 bioaccumulates. It builds up inside of us. 1228 01:14:48,875 --> 01:14:52,139 Some class members who aren't sick today 1229 01:14:52,183 --> 01:14:53,706 -will get sick tomorrow. 1230 01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:56,013 We need a way to protect them into the future. 1231 01:14:56,056 --> 01:14:57,580 DAVID: Jesus, Tom, if you're 1232 01:14:57,623 --> 01:14:59,233 even thinking about using medical monitoring... 1233 01:14:59,277 --> 01:15:01,453 -Hold on. Hold on. 1234 01:15:01,497 --> 01:15:03,890 Medical monitoring is a claim 1235 01:15:03,934 --> 01:15:05,805 now permitted in West Virginia courts. 1236 01:15:05,849 --> 01:15:07,328 -PARTNER 2: Oh, come on. 1237 01:15:07,372 --> 01:15:08,765 Let's hear him out. 1238 01:15:08,808 --> 01:15:11,202 It says, if a company exposes a community 1239 01:15:11,245 --> 01:15:12,986 to something that makes them sick, 1240 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:15,946 they must monitor the health of that community indefinitely. 1241 01:15:15,989 --> 01:15:17,861 PARTNER 2: Everybody get that? 1242 01:15:17,904 --> 01:15:20,254 You're creating liability from mere exposure. 1243 01:15:20,298 --> 01:15:21,995 PARTNER: It's also unprecedented. 1244 01:15:22,039 --> 01:15:24,084 Exactly. Which is why, not six months ago, 1245 01:15:24,128 --> 01:15:26,783 -we fought tooth and nail against it. -ROB: And you lost. 1246 01:15:26,826 --> 01:15:30,569 Our-our clients have the right to avail themselves of the law. 1247 01:15:30,613 --> 01:15:33,180 Potential clients. 1248 01:15:36,967 --> 01:15:38,925 JAMES: Uh, okay. Um... 1249 01:15:38,969 --> 01:15:40,623 I-I-I know you, Rob. 1250 01:15:40,666 --> 01:15:42,494 I-I-I know your passion. 1251 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,323 Uh, you... you got a great settlement for your farmer. 1252 01:15:45,366 --> 01:15:47,368 You should be proud of that. 1253 01:15:47,412 --> 01:15:51,155 Uh, and perhaps as the newest partner at this table, 1254 01:15:51,198 --> 01:15:53,026 I should be more circumspect. 1255 01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:56,595 But, uh, what he's proposing here 1256 01:15:56,639 --> 01:15:59,990 is nothing less than a-a shakedown 1257 01:16:00,033 --> 01:16:02,601 -of an iconic American company. -We do not represent DuPont. 1258 01:16:02,645 --> 01:16:05,343 No, y-you don't represent anyone. 1259 01:16:06,605 --> 01:16:08,868 Is this what we have become? 1260 01:16:08,912 --> 01:16:10,914 Plaintiff's attorneys? Ambulance chasers? 1261 01:16:10,957 --> 01:16:12,611 I mean, why don't you just admit it? 1262 01:16:12,655 --> 01:16:13,830 Rob, you want to flip. 1263 01:16:13,873 --> 01:16:15,832 You want to take everything that you know 1264 01:16:15,875 --> 01:16:18,095 about how chemical companies operate 1265 01:16:18,138 --> 01:16:20,924 and turn it against DuPont, like an informant. 1266 01:16:20,967 --> 01:16:22,186 -That's enough. -Isn't that right? 1267 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:23,622 -TOM: Okay. -Isn't that right? 1268 01:16:23,666 --> 01:16:25,363 -Isn't that right? -Yes. 1269 01:16:25,406 --> 01:16:28,758 Okay, then I-I say we take a vote 1270 01:16:28,801 --> 01:16:31,717 and determine whether or not we continue 1271 01:16:31,761 --> 01:16:33,719 in the tradition that has distinguished this firm 1272 01:16:33,763 --> 01:16:35,373 from everyone else in the industry or... 1273 01:16:35,416 --> 01:16:37,114 TOM: Okay, I'm running this meeting. 1274 01:16:37,157 --> 01:16:39,551 Okay? You got that? 1275 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,553 Has anyone even read 1276 01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:44,077 the evidence this man has collected? 1277 01:16:44,121 --> 01:16:47,428 The willful negligence, the corruption? 1278 01:16:47,472 --> 01:16:49,517 Read it. 1279 01:16:49,561 --> 01:16:51,868 And then tell me we should be sitting on our asses. 1280 01:16:51,911 --> 01:16:54,087 -That's the reason 1281 01:16:54,131 --> 01:16:56,699 why Americans hate lawyers. 1282 01:16:56,742 --> 01:17:00,006 This is the crap that fuels the Ralph Naders of the world. 1283 01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:03,575 We should want to nail DuPont. 1284 01:17:03,619 --> 01:17:05,577 All of us should. 1285 01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:08,014 American business is better than this, gentlemen. 1286 01:17:08,058 --> 01:17:11,017 And when it's not, we should hold them to it. 1287 01:17:11,061 --> 01:17:14,368 That's how you build faith in the system. 1288 01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:17,328 We're always arguing that companies are people. 1289 01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,113 Well, these people... 1290 01:17:20,157 --> 01:17:22,333 have crossed the line! 1291 01:17:22,376 --> 01:17:24,422 To hell with them! 1292 01:17:28,513 --> 01:17:30,036 HARRY: It may come as a surprise 1293 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,256 to corporate defense types like yourselves, 1294 01:17:32,299 --> 01:17:33,779 but there's more to the law 1295 01:17:33,823 --> 01:17:36,129 than just flooding the other side in papers. 1296 01:17:36,173 --> 01:17:39,611 From where I sit, you have to touch people. 1297 01:17:39,655 --> 01:17:42,048 You know, these girls, they handle the calls 1298 01:17:42,092 --> 01:17:44,442 from the class action members. 1299 01:17:44,485 --> 01:17:47,010 And there's thousands of 'em on any given case. 1300 01:17:47,053 --> 01:17:50,883 And it's here that we come to know their pain. 1301 01:17:50,927 --> 01:17:53,059 Isn't that right, Hazel? 1302 01:17:53,103 --> 01:17:54,365 Yes. 1303 01:17:54,408 --> 01:17:57,020 We hear it every day, and it's my job 1304 01:17:57,063 --> 01:17:58,935 to make a jury feel that pain, 1305 01:17:58,978 --> 01:18:01,807 not out of pity, but out of fear. 1306 01:18:01,851 --> 01:18:04,680 Whatever it is that happened to my client, 1307 01:18:04,723 --> 01:18:09,119 that juror has to think, "That could happen to me." 1308 01:18:09,162 --> 01:18:10,642 ROB: You just keep hammering it. 1309 01:18:10,686 --> 01:18:12,818 One part per billion, one part per billion. 1310 01:18:12,862 --> 01:18:15,038 It's their own documents, their own scientists. 1311 01:18:15,081 --> 01:18:16,648 -Absolutely. -All right? They-they... 1312 01:18:16,692 --> 01:18:18,955 They set that standard. They have to live with it. 1313 01:18:18,998 --> 01:18:20,870 Yeah, I think we can relax, Rob, though. 1314 01:18:20,913 --> 01:18:22,523 You know, there's no way 1315 01:18:22,567 --> 01:18:24,612 they're gonna prevail with a motion to dismiss. 1316 01:18:24,656 --> 01:18:26,310 This is procedural. 1317 01:18:26,353 --> 01:18:28,791 It's nonsense. We'll get a trial today. 1318 01:18:30,227 --> 01:18:32,011 ROB: Okay, I'll catch you guys in there. 1319 01:18:32,055 --> 01:18:33,534 I'm gonna get a drink. 1320 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,540 WILBUR: I wouldn't drink that. 1321 01:18:41,455 --> 01:18:43,109 Earl. 1322 01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:46,809 How you doing? 1323 01:18:46,852 --> 01:18:49,681 Still here. 1324 01:18:49,725 --> 01:18:52,597 That's something, right? 1325 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,078 Yes, that-that's something. 1326 01:18:55,121 --> 01:18:56,732 It's good to see you, Rob. 1327 01:19:00,344 --> 01:19:02,694 Can't let 'em... 1328 01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:04,652 shut you down. 1329 01:19:06,393 --> 01:19:08,874 Oh, I-I won't. I-I promise. 1330 01:19:08,918 --> 01:19:12,138 Whole world... 1331 01:19:12,182 --> 01:19:14,358 needs to know. 1332 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,623 They will, Earl. 1333 01:19:18,666 --> 01:19:20,712 They will. 1334 01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:22,105 LARRY: Hey, Rob. 1335 01:19:22,148 --> 01:19:23,715 It's time. 1336 01:19:26,109 --> 01:19:28,546 I-I have to go. 1337 01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:45,868 We are here on defendant's motion 1338 01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:48,000 -to dismiss the case... -Hey, Joe. How are you? 1339 01:19:48,044 --> 01:19:51,482 ...brought by Mr. Kiger, et al. 1340 01:19:51,525 --> 01:19:52,875 -Now... 1341 01:19:52,918 --> 01:19:55,442 ...which one of you is Mr. Wallace? 1342 01:19:55,486 --> 01:19:58,010 Edward Wallace, Your Honor, on behalf of 1343 01:19:58,054 --> 01:19:59,969 E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company, 1344 01:20:00,012 --> 01:20:01,448 better known as DuPont. 1345 01:20:01,492 --> 01:20:03,407 -Yes, I've heard of it. 1346 01:20:03,450 --> 01:20:04,974 -Your motion. -Thank you. 1347 01:20:05,017 --> 01:20:07,280 Your Honor, we're here today 1348 01:20:07,324 --> 01:20:12,068 because of a uniquely American invention: Teflon. 1349 01:20:12,111 --> 01:20:14,853 Since 1961, Teflon has liberated housewives... 1350 01:20:14,897 --> 01:20:16,986 -No, no, no, no, no, no. -Oh, uh, excuse me. 1351 01:20:17,029 --> 01:20:18,335 Homemakers throughout... 1352 01:20:18,378 --> 01:20:20,206 This is a courtroom, Mr. Wallace, 1353 01:20:20,250 --> 01:20:22,121 not the Home Shopping Network. 1354 01:20:23,775 --> 01:20:26,125 Plaintiffs have alleged that DuPont did not meet 1355 01:20:26,169 --> 01:20:28,562 -its own standard of safety... -She's good, huh? She's good. 1356 01:20:28,606 --> 01:20:30,869 ...with regard to the level of C-8 1357 01:20:30,913 --> 01:20:32,958 -in the local water supply. -HARRY: Okay. 1358 01:20:33,002 --> 01:20:34,742 That's irrelevant, Your Honor. 1359 01:20:34,786 --> 01:20:36,614 We ask you to dismiss on grounds 1360 01:20:36,657 --> 01:20:38,572 that the only standard that matters 1361 01:20:38,616 --> 01:20:41,401 is the one that elected government deems safe. 1362 01:20:41,445 --> 01:20:43,490 -ROB: Not if it's unregulated. -It's government's job 1363 01:20:43,534 --> 01:20:45,710 to make these determinations, not any one company. 1364 01:20:45,753 --> 01:20:47,930 -That's a trap. -They can't revert back to... 1365 01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:49,192 I got it. 1366 01:20:49,235 --> 01:20:51,020 Is there a problem, Mr. Deitzler? 1367 01:20:51,063 --> 01:20:54,458 Apologies, Your Honor, but DuPont has been hiding 1368 01:20:54,501 --> 01:20:56,373 the dangers of this chemical 1369 01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:58,810 from the government for a while now. 1370 01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:01,334 And they're asking you to let 'em off the hook 1371 01:21:01,378 --> 01:21:03,510 because they've succeeded in their strategy. 1372 01:21:03,554 --> 01:21:05,904 Government doesn't regulate C-8. 1373 01:21:05,948 --> 01:21:07,123 WALLACE: Uh, actually, that's not true. 1374 01:21:07,166 --> 01:21:08,559 -Oh? -No, no. 1375 01:21:08,602 --> 01:21:10,604 The West Virginia's C-8 Working Group 1376 01:21:10,648 --> 01:21:12,432 has just issued a standard. 1377 01:21:12,476 --> 01:21:13,999 Here with us today 1378 01:21:14,043 --> 01:21:16,001 is the governmental official who led that effort, 1379 01:21:16,045 --> 01:21:17,785 Dr. Mary-Sue Kimball. 1380 01:21:20,788 --> 01:21:22,878 And, Dr. Kimball, uh, as a senior member 1381 01:21:22,921 --> 01:21:25,402 of the state's Department of Environmental Protection, 1382 01:21:25,445 --> 01:21:27,926 isn't it, in fact, your duty to protect the citizens 1383 01:21:27,970 --> 01:21:30,146 -of West Virginia... -Mr. Wallace. 1384 01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:32,844 I'll cut to the chase. 1385 01:21:32,888 --> 01:21:35,455 What is the level of C-8 in drinking water 1386 01:21:35,499 --> 01:21:36,935 that the state of West Virginia 1387 01:21:36,979 --> 01:21:38,676 has determined to be completely safe? 1388 01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:41,809 -Watch it go from one part per billion to... -Five? -Ten? 1389 01:21:41,853 --> 01:21:43,202 150 parts per billion. 1390 01:21:43,246 --> 01:21:45,857 -Welcome to West Virginia. 1391 01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:48,164 WALLACE: The levels found in the wells 1392 01:21:48,207 --> 01:21:51,080 of all six water districts represented in this suit, 1393 01:21:51,123 --> 01:21:53,082 do they fall below this maximum level? 1394 01:21:53,125 --> 01:21:54,474 Well below. 1395 01:21:54,518 --> 01:21:56,737 Nothing else, Your Honor. 1396 01:21:57,869 --> 01:21:59,827 Your witness, Mr. Deitzler. 1397 01:21:59,871 --> 01:22:01,394 Wait, who-who's on the working group? 1398 01:22:01,438 --> 01:22:02,830 DuPont, of course, and who else? 1399 01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:04,093 -Who did the water testing? -JUDGE: Mr. Deitzler? 1400 01:22:04,136 --> 01:22:05,442 When was it done? 1401 01:22:05,485 --> 01:22:06,922 -One moment, Judge. -What was the sample size? 1402 01:22:06,965 --> 01:22:08,662 Yeah, I mean, we should be able to see... 1403 01:22:08,706 --> 01:22:10,664 -Going once. 1404 01:22:10,708 --> 01:22:12,362 JUDGE: Going twice. 1405 01:22:12,405 --> 01:22:16,061 Dr. Kimball, who were the members of this cabal 1406 01:22:16,105 --> 01:22:17,845 you call the C-8 Working Group? 1407 01:22:17,889 --> 01:22:19,891 WALLACE: Objection. 1408 01:22:19,935 --> 01:22:22,502 Cool it, Mr. Deitzler. 1409 01:22:22,546 --> 01:22:24,635 Go ahead, Dr. Kimball. 1410 01:22:24,678 --> 01:22:26,332 Agency officials, 1411 01:22:26,376 --> 01:22:28,508 representatives of the scientific community, 1412 01:22:28,552 --> 01:22:29,945 um, stakeholders. 1413 01:22:29,988 --> 01:22:31,947 Stakeholders? Which stakeholders? 1414 01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:35,298 Oh, wait, let me guess-- it rhymes with "bouffant." 1415 01:22:35,341 --> 01:22:38,170 -DuPont is a stakeholder, yes. 1416 01:22:38,214 --> 01:22:40,825 So, I see. So, don't you find it peculiar 1417 01:22:40,868 --> 01:22:43,915 that on the eve of a class action lawsuit 1418 01:22:43,959 --> 01:22:47,484 where DuPont might be considered liable 1419 01:22:47,527 --> 01:22:50,008 for poisoning this community, 1420 01:22:50,052 --> 01:22:52,837 they get you to come in here suddenly 1421 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:57,102 and reverse decades of their so-called heralded science? 1422 01:22:57,146 --> 01:22:58,843 That's false. 1423 01:22:58,886 --> 01:23:00,410 I don't work for DuPont. 1424 01:23:00,453 --> 01:23:02,020 I didn't say you did. 1425 01:23:02,064 --> 01:23:04,457 But now you bring it up, we'll check back in a month. 1426 01:23:04,501 --> 01:23:06,024 -Your Honor... No. -Were you honestly gonna 1427 01:23:06,068 --> 01:23:07,678 plan on telling this community 1428 01:23:07,721 --> 01:23:10,724 -that they can drink 150 times more C-8? - 1429 01:23:10,768 --> 01:23:12,726 I mean, come on, people, bottoms up. 1430 01:23:12,770 --> 01:23:14,728 -That kind of thing? -Honestly, Judge, this is not... 1431 01:23:14,772 --> 01:23:16,643 All right, Mr. Deitzler, enough. 1432 01:23:16,687 --> 01:23:18,732 KIMBALL: We'll be unveiling the new standard 1433 01:23:18,776 --> 01:23:21,561 at an upcoming public hearing. 1434 01:23:21,605 --> 01:23:24,477 "Unveiling." Whoa, that sounds like a party. 1435 01:23:24,521 --> 01:23:26,044 We'll be there! 1436 01:23:30,918 --> 01:23:32,790 HARRY: Their safety standards thing, 1437 01:23:32,833 --> 01:23:34,792 that's all a sham. 1438 01:23:34,835 --> 01:23:38,317 Thanks to the judge's decision, we will have our day in court. 1439 01:23:38,361 --> 01:23:40,015 -MAN: Yes, we will! 1440 01:23:40,058 --> 01:23:42,321 Because, if the state of West Virginia 1441 01:23:42,365 --> 01:23:44,149 won't stop the DuPont corporation 1442 01:23:44,193 --> 01:23:46,456 from literally poisoning its citizens, 1443 01:23:46,499 --> 01:23:49,546 then we the citizens will stop them ourselves. 1444 01:23:51,939 --> 01:23:54,290 BARBARA WALTERS: Good evening, and welcome to 20/20. 1445 01:23:54,333 --> 01:23:57,075 Well, it coats the pots you cook with 1446 01:23:57,119 --> 01:23:58,946 so the food doesn't stick, 1447 01:23:58,990 --> 01:24:02,080 it protects the carpet your baby crawls on... 1448 01:24:02,124 --> 01:24:03,647 -I miss carpet. 1449 01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:05,040 WALTERS: ...winter jacket, your skin lotion, 1450 01:24:05,083 --> 01:24:06,432 even your makeup. 1451 01:24:06,476 --> 01:24:08,260 We're talking about Teflon. 1452 01:24:08,304 --> 01:24:11,350 And tonight, our 20/20 investigation uncovers 1453 01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:15,615 alarming information about this much-used material. 1454 01:24:15,659 --> 01:24:17,878 It is very alarming, Barbara. I cook with Teflon. 1455 01:24:17,922 --> 01:24:19,532 I didn't know until I watched 1456 01:24:19,576 --> 01:24:21,273 this report that you're about to see 1457 01:24:21,317 --> 01:24:23,145 that if Teflon gets hot enough... 1458 01:24:23,188 --> 01:24:24,755 ...millions of people have in their homes. 1459 01:24:24,798 --> 01:24:26,452 Teflon has become such a familiar... 1460 01:24:26,496 --> 01:24:27,932 ...Teflon, a substance that is also used 1461 01:24:27,975 --> 01:24:29,760 in clothing and cars, even in contact lenses. 1462 01:24:29,803 --> 01:24:31,805 ...already found in the blood of most Americans. 1463 01:24:31,849 --> 01:24:33,111 Now scientists are saying... 1464 01:24:33,155 --> 01:24:36,375 PFOA... 1465 01:24:36,419 --> 01:24:37,724 ...millions of homes across Australia. 1466 01:24:37,768 --> 01:24:39,422 Teflon, a nonstick surface... 1467 01:24:39,465 --> 01:24:41,989 NEWSMAN: The Environmental Protection Agency this morning 1468 01:24:42,033 --> 01:24:44,905 announced it has opened a priority review 1469 01:24:44,949 --> 01:24:47,560 of the chemical C-8, currently the subject 1470 01:24:47,604 --> 01:24:49,084 of a class action lawsuit 1471 01:24:49,127 --> 01:24:51,042 against the chemical giant DuPont. 1472 01:24:51,086 --> 01:24:52,391 DARLENE: Joe! 1473 01:24:53,740 --> 01:24:55,177 Joe! 1474 01:24:55,220 --> 01:24:57,266 Oh, my Lord, Joe, just wait! 1475 01:24:57,309 --> 01:25:00,312 Wait for the fire department, please, honey! 1476 01:25:00,356 --> 01:25:02,009 -Please don't go crazy! 1477 01:25:02,053 --> 01:25:04,011 NEWSWOMAN: ...have triggered a mass panic 1478 01:25:04,055 --> 01:25:05,187 among Chinese consumers. 1479 01:25:05,230 --> 01:25:06,666 NEWSMAN 2: Should you throw away 1480 01:25:06,710 --> 01:25:08,059 your nonstick pans? Many experts say... 1481 01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:09,843 NEWSWOMAN 2: Are your pans making you sick? 1482 01:25:09,887 --> 01:25:11,367 That's the question being asked... 1483 01:25:11,410 --> 01:25:13,064 NEWSMAN 3: ...returns of kitchen implements 1484 01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:15,632 coated in Teflon. 1485 01:25:15,675 --> 01:25:18,678 JOE: The house was empty. It belongs to my father. 1486 01:25:18,722 --> 01:25:20,767 I don't know how it could've started. 1487 01:25:20,811 --> 01:25:22,552 His name Kiger? 1488 01:25:24,031 --> 01:25:26,860 Think someone might have got the wrong house? 1489 01:25:34,564 --> 01:25:38,611 WOMAN: All of this hullabaloo is just silly. 1490 01:25:38,655 --> 01:25:41,832 Teflon is completely safe for cooking. 1491 01:25:41,875 --> 01:25:44,661 That is why we founded the Cook Healthy campaign 1492 01:25:44,704 --> 01:25:46,663 to set the record straight. 1493 01:25:46,706 --> 01:25:51,624 And besides being completely safe, it is also... 1494 01:25:58,892 --> 01:26:00,633 Copy that. 1495 01:26:02,722 --> 01:26:04,724 All the way down. 1496 01:27:09,049 --> 01:27:10,486 MAN: We are now on the record. 1497 01:27:10,529 --> 01:27:11,965 This is the videotaped deposition 1498 01:27:12,009 --> 01:27:14,141 of Charles O. Holliday, Jr., 1499 01:27:14,185 --> 01:27:17,057 taken by the plaintiffs in the matter of Kiger et al. 1500 01:27:17,101 --> 01:27:20,147 versus E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. 1501 01:27:20,191 --> 01:27:22,193 Raise your right hand. 1502 01:27:22,237 --> 01:27:24,282 Do you swear to tell the whole truth 1503 01:27:24,326 --> 01:27:25,762 and nothing but the truth? 1504 01:27:25,805 --> 01:27:28,112 I do. 1505 01:27:28,155 --> 01:27:30,723 ROB: Uh, please state your name. 1506 01:27:30,767 --> 01:27:33,248 Charles O. Holliday, Jr. 1507 01:27:33,291 --> 01:27:37,208 And are you presently employed? 1508 01:27:37,252 --> 01:27:38,818 Yes. 1509 01:27:38,862 --> 01:27:41,299 ROB: What is your position? 1510 01:27:41,343 --> 01:27:43,214 CHARLES: I'm the chairman and chief executive officer 1511 01:27:43,258 --> 01:27:46,391 of the DuPont Company. 1512 01:27:46,435 --> 01:27:48,263 In DuPont's most recent filing 1513 01:27:48,306 --> 01:27:51,048 with the Securities and Exchange Commission, 1514 01:27:51,091 --> 01:27:53,050 you state, quote, 1515 01:27:53,093 --> 01:27:56,053 "Based on over 50 years of industry experience 1516 01:27:56,096 --> 01:27:58,316 "and extensive scientific study, 1517 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,536 "DuPont believes there is no evidence 1518 01:28:00,579 --> 01:28:04,757 "that PFOA causes any adverse human health effects 1519 01:28:04,801 --> 01:28:06,890 or harms the environment." 1520 01:28:06,933 --> 01:28:08,457 You signed that legal filing, correct? 1521 01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:10,023 I don't recall the exact statement, 1522 01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:12,025 but that sounds right to me. 1523 01:28:12,069 --> 01:28:15,899 Are you aware that DuPont has, in its own files, 1524 01:28:15,942 --> 01:28:18,510 studies dating back to the 1970s 1525 01:28:18,554 --> 01:28:21,078 that say just the opposite? 1526 01:28:21,121 --> 01:28:24,342 That PFOA-- or C-8, as it's called-- 1527 01:28:24,386 --> 01:28:26,170 has potentially life-threatening effects 1528 01:28:26,213 --> 01:28:27,563 on human health? 1529 01:28:27,606 --> 01:28:29,391 I'm not familiar with the exact studies 1530 01:28:29,434 --> 01:28:30,870 we may have in our files. 1531 01:28:30,914 --> 01:28:32,307 Then I'll take you through them. 1532 01:28:32,350 --> 01:28:34,352 Uh, exhibit nine. 1533 01:28:38,922 --> 01:28:42,926 Uh, y-you were just handed exhibit nine. 1534 01:28:42,969 --> 01:28:46,277 Uh, you see the date March 13, 1979? 1535 01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:48,540 -Yes. -You see the DuPont logo at the top? 1536 01:28:48,584 --> 01:28:50,107 Yes. 1537 01:28:50,150 --> 01:28:53,371 -ROB: Do you see this word here highlighted? -Yes. 1538 01:28:53,415 --> 01:28:55,068 ROB: Would you read it for me, please? 1539 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:56,592 CHARLES: "Receptors." 1540 01:28:56,635 --> 01:29:01,292 Do you know what that word refers to-- "receptors"? 1541 01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:04,295 Um, in this context, I do not. 1542 01:29:04,339 --> 01:29:06,341 It means human beings. 1543 01:29:06,384 --> 01:29:08,647 DuPont refers to the men and women 1544 01:29:08,691 --> 01:29:12,347 that your company exposed to C-8 as "receptors." 1545 01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:17,395 And in these receptors, your scientists found, quote, 1546 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,399 "significantly higher incidents of allergic endocrine 1547 01:29:21,443 --> 01:29:23,706 and metabolic disorders," end quote. 1548 01:29:23,749 --> 01:29:25,447 As well as, quote, 1549 01:29:25,490 --> 01:29:28,363 "excess risk of developing liver disease." 1550 01:29:28,406 --> 01:29:30,365 -Do you see that? -Yes. 1551 01:29:31,975 --> 01:29:36,066 Moreover, you have infertility at Teflon. 1552 01:29:36,109 --> 01:29:38,024 Occurrences of leukemia. 1553 01:29:38,068 --> 01:29:40,418 You have excess of cancers. 1554 01:29:40,462 --> 01:29:42,159 Bladder, kidney, oral, pharynx. 1555 01:29:42,202 --> 01:29:43,160 Next paragraph. 1556 01:29:43,203 --> 01:29:45,031 Seventy-eight. 1557 01:29:45,075 --> 01:29:46,381 You see that heading? 1558 01:29:46,424 --> 01:29:47,643 You see that date? Do you see that? 1559 01:29:47,686 --> 01:29:50,297 Exhibit 96. Exhibit 53. 1560 01:29:50,341 --> 01:29:52,430 I'd like to move on to birth defects. 1561 01:29:52,474 --> 01:29:54,432 -We've gone almost seven hours. -ROB: Mr. Holliday, 1562 01:29:54,476 --> 01:29:56,565 you're aware that, in 1981, 1563 01:29:56,608 --> 01:30:00,438 3M notified DuPont that it had conducted studies on rats 1564 01:30:00,482 --> 01:30:03,615 and these studies showed that sustained C-8 exposure 1565 01:30:03,659 --> 01:30:05,617 can cause facial deformities? 1566 01:30:05,661 --> 01:30:07,793 I'm not aware of a study by 3M. 1567 01:30:07,837 --> 01:30:09,360 How about DuPont's own studies 1568 01:30:09,404 --> 01:30:12,319 that showed the same thing in humans? 1569 01:30:15,540 --> 01:30:18,804 That's DuPont's pregnancy study from 1981. 1570 01:30:18,848 --> 01:30:20,676 Does that look like a DuPont document to you? 1571 01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:22,417 It looks to be. 1572 01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:26,029 Are you aware that DuPont has denied 1573 01:30:26,072 --> 01:30:29,902 that any such study ever even took place? 1574 01:30:31,338 --> 01:30:33,036 I'm not familiar with specific statements 1575 01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:34,516 we've made about that. 1576 01:30:34,559 --> 01:30:36,518 Seven pregnant women, 1577 01:30:36,561 --> 01:30:40,826 all DuPont employees, all from the Teflon line. 1578 01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:43,307 Do you see this here? 1579 01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:46,223 Quote, "Child, four months, 1580 01:30:46,266 --> 01:30:49,095 one nostril, eye defect," end quote. 1581 01:30:49,139 --> 01:30:51,184 -Yes. -Two of the seven women, 1582 01:30:51,228 --> 01:30:53,883 nearly 30%, gave birth to babies 1583 01:30:53,926 --> 01:30:56,276 that had the exact facial deformities 1584 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,365 that your company already knew about. 1585 01:30:58,409 --> 01:30:59,889 We're done here. 1586 01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:03,762 Sir. 1587 01:31:03,806 --> 01:31:06,243 His parents named him Bucky. 1588 01:31:09,681 --> 01:31:11,422 Bucky Bailey. 1589 01:31:13,163 --> 01:31:15,470 This is your receptor. 1590 01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:25,480 Now we're done. 1591 01:33:02,054 --> 01:33:03,882 NEWSMAN: The Environmental Protection Agency 1592 01:33:03,926 --> 01:33:07,233 has levied the largest fine in agency history 1593 01:33:07,277 --> 01:33:09,845 against the chemical giant DuPont. 1594 01:33:09,888 --> 01:33:11,629 The EPA concluded 1595 01:33:11,673 --> 01:33:15,241 the company failed to report the health dangers of C-8 1596 01:33:15,285 --> 01:33:17,983 used in the manufacture of Teflon. 1597 01:33:18,027 --> 01:33:22,945 DuPont will pay the EPA $16.5 million. 1598 01:33:22,988 --> 01:33:27,558 It earns a billion dollars in profits from Teflon each year. 1599 01:33:34,173 --> 01:33:36,611 MEDIATOR: To recap, we've agreed that DuPont 1600 01:33:36,654 --> 01:33:38,917 will clean local water supplies, 1601 01:33:38,961 --> 01:33:43,313 install infiltration systems in all six water districts. 1602 01:33:43,356 --> 01:33:45,358 Additionally, DuPont will pay 1603 01:33:45,402 --> 01:33:47,447 $70 million in cash to the class. 1604 01:33:47,491 --> 01:33:49,667 Three days' revenue on the Teflon line. 1605 01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:51,364 -MEDIATOR: Which leaves 1606 01:33:51,408 --> 01:33:54,716 our most challenging issue: medical monitoring. 1607 01:33:54,759 --> 01:33:58,023 We've agreed to establish an independent science panel 1608 01:33:58,067 --> 01:33:59,851 comprised of three scientists 1609 01:33:59,895 --> 01:34:02,985 who have no relationship to either side. 1610 01:34:03,028 --> 01:34:06,815 This independent panel will study the members of this class 1611 01:34:06,858 --> 01:34:09,078 to determine whether C-8 exposure 1612 01:34:09,121 --> 01:34:12,908 has led to increased incidents of disease in this region. 1613 01:34:12,951 --> 01:34:16,302 If the panel finds that there are probable scientific links 1614 01:34:16,346 --> 01:34:18,304 to a particular disease, 1615 01:34:18,348 --> 01:34:20,872 the health of everyone in the class will be monitored 1616 01:34:20,916 --> 01:34:23,614 for that disease in perpetuity 1617 01:34:23,658 --> 01:34:27,226 at DuPont's cost up to $235 million. 1618 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:30,229 And any class member who develops that disease 1619 01:34:30,273 --> 01:34:33,319 can sue DuPont for damages. 1620 01:34:33,363 --> 01:34:36,583 However, if the science panel 1621 01:34:36,627 --> 01:34:40,326 fails to establish probable scientific links, 1622 01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:41,763 then this case is over. 1623 01:34:41,806 --> 01:34:45,244 No monitoring, no lawsuits, no exceptions. 1624 01:34:45,288 --> 01:34:46,550 Good. 1625 01:34:46,593 --> 01:34:47,986 Well, gentlemen, you are now officially 1626 01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:50,423 in the hands of science. 1627 01:34:50,467 --> 01:34:52,425 HARRY: Well... 1628 01:34:52,469 --> 01:34:55,515 wouldn't have pegged you as a mai tai guy. 1629 01:34:55,559 --> 01:34:57,082 ROB: It's festive. 1630 01:34:57,126 --> 01:34:58,736 HARRY: Wouldn't have pegged you for that, either. 1631 01:34:58,780 --> 01:35:00,564 ROB: We have something to celebrate. 1632 01:35:00,607 --> 01:35:03,523 -HARRY: Yeah? -LARRY: Do we? 1633 01:35:03,567 --> 01:35:07,832 Look, how do we know that the panel is going to prove 1634 01:35:07,876 --> 01:35:10,748 that DuPont made all these people sick? 1635 01:35:10,792 --> 01:35:13,620 I'm no scientist, but even I know you'd need 1636 01:35:13,664 --> 01:35:15,448 huge amounts of medical data, 1637 01:35:15,492 --> 01:35:18,364 not to mention thousands of blood samples and... 1638 01:35:18,408 --> 01:35:20,845 HARRY: From people who don't trust us. 1639 01:35:20,889 --> 01:35:22,934 "Hey, folks, we want to stick you with some needles. 1640 01:35:22,978 --> 01:35:24,370 You won't mind, will you?" 1641 01:35:24,414 --> 01:35:27,983 I mean, I know these people. 1642 01:35:28,026 --> 01:35:30,115 They're gonna take the money and run. 1643 01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:32,117 Wouldn't you? 1644 01:35:32,161 --> 01:35:34,598 I think they-they want more than just the money. 1645 01:35:34,641 --> 01:35:37,340 I-I-I-I think they... 1646 01:35:37,383 --> 01:35:40,256 they want to know if they're gonna get sick or not. 1647 01:35:40,299 --> 01:35:42,214 Or if they have C-8 in their blood 1648 01:35:42,258 --> 01:35:45,217 and what that's gonna do t-to them and their families. 1649 01:35:45,261 --> 01:35:49,787 So, we're just gonna trust that they show up, huh? 1650 01:35:49,831 --> 01:35:51,789 ROB: Trust and... but verify. 1651 01:35:51,833 --> 01:35:53,443 What does that mean, Rob? 1652 01:35:54,531 --> 01:35:57,577 Well, come in for an exam. 1653 01:35:57,621 --> 01:36:01,320 Um... give us a blood sample. 1654 01:36:01,364 --> 01:36:03,975 Then we'll give you your check. 1655 01:36:06,369 --> 01:36:08,719 On second thought, make mine a mai tai. 1656 01:36:08,763 --> 01:36:10,068 All around, please. 1657 01:36:11,374 --> 01:36:13,419 -Rob Bilott. -LARRY: Yeah. 1658 01:36:13,463 --> 01:36:15,900 -Where'd you pull that out of? 1659 01:36:15,944 --> 01:36:18,424 RADIO ANNOUNCER: Healthy drinking water is vital 1660 01:36:18,468 --> 01:36:19,861 to all of us. That's why scientists 1661 01:36:19,904 --> 01:36:21,732 need to know if the chemical C-8 1662 01:36:21,776 --> 01:36:23,212 causes any health problems. 1663 01:36:23,255 --> 01:36:25,127 Starting today, you can help by completing 1664 01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:27,129 a health questionnaire and having... 1665 01:36:29,696 --> 01:36:31,046 Ah, come on! 1666 01:36:31,089 --> 01:36:33,048 RADIO DJ: ...medical van downtown. 1667 01:36:33,091 --> 01:36:34,179 Well, how about you? 1668 01:36:34,223 --> 01:36:35,833 Are you gonna get your blood tested? 1669 01:36:35,877 --> 01:36:38,314 MAN : Nah. I-I hate needles. 1670 01:36:38,357 --> 01:36:39,881 DJ: It's 400 bucks, buddy. 1671 01:36:39,924 --> 01:36:41,491 MAN: Really? 1672 01:36:41,534 --> 01:36:44,146 DJ : Got your attention... 1673 01:37:12,348 --> 01:37:14,263 WOMAN: Okay, okay! 1674 01:37:14,306 --> 01:37:16,439 All right, all right. 1675 01:37:16,482 --> 01:37:18,571 Yeah, that'll work. 1676 01:37:18,615 --> 01:37:21,052 We bring them back here, 1677 01:37:21,096 --> 01:37:23,663 draw the blood and hand them a check. 1678 01:37:23,707 --> 01:37:25,883 -ROB: $400. -Each. 1679 01:37:25,927 --> 01:37:27,798 Lots of money around here. 1680 01:37:27,842 --> 01:37:29,974 How many you brought with you today, Miss LuAnn? 1681 01:37:30,018 --> 01:37:31,846 My husband and my three kids and me. 1682 01:37:31,889 --> 01:37:33,673 -DR. BROOKS: $2,000. -LuANN: Yeah. 1683 01:37:33,717 --> 01:37:35,675 DR. BROOKS: Not too shabby right before Christmas. 1684 01:37:35,719 --> 01:37:37,895 LuANN : Yep. 1685 01:37:37,939 --> 01:37:39,941 But you ain't gonna find nothing. 1686 01:37:39,984 --> 01:37:41,856 DuPont's good people. 1687 01:37:41,899 --> 01:37:43,205 You'll see. 1688 01:37:46,556 --> 01:37:48,427 -Gigi, Gigi, Gigi! 1689 01:37:48,471 --> 01:37:51,517 It's your turn to put the angel on the top. 1690 01:37:51,561 --> 01:37:52,823 You do it, sweetie. 1691 01:37:52,867 --> 01:37:54,651 -Gigi's too pooped. -Look at me! 1692 01:37:54,694 --> 01:37:57,349 -Why don't you get your Uncle Ben to give you a boost? -Look! 1693 01:37:57,393 --> 01:37:58,873 -Ooh! -Mom? 1694 01:37:58,916 --> 01:38:00,265 -BEN: What's up? -SARAH: You okay? 1695 01:38:00,309 --> 01:38:01,658 -Yeah. -TONY: Can you put... Can you help... 1696 01:38:01,701 --> 01:38:03,181 Seriously, it's huge. 1697 01:38:03,225 --> 01:38:04,879 They're gonna be making you partner this year. 1698 01:38:04,922 --> 01:38:06,097 -I know it. -Well, they'd better. 1699 01:38:06,141 --> 01:38:07,272 -I mean... 1700 01:38:07,316 --> 01:38:08,665 SILAS: Mommy, come see this! 1701 01:38:08,708 --> 01:38:10,101 Hey, baby, did you hang that ornament? 1702 01:38:10,145 --> 01:38:11,755 -SARAH: Rob, can you get that? -ROB: Mm, uh... 1703 01:38:11,798 --> 01:38:13,539 -KARLA: Let me see. -ROB: Okay, I'm-I'm coming. 1704 01:38:17,021 --> 01:38:18,283 Hello? 1705 01:38:18,327 --> 01:38:19,763 LARRY: Rob, you sitting down for this? 1706 01:38:19,806 --> 01:38:22,722 -Larry, what's wrong? -69,000. 1707 01:38:22,766 --> 01:38:24,333 69,000 what? 1708 01:38:24,376 --> 01:38:27,466 69,000 people got tested. 69,000! 1709 01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:29,686 You realize how much data this is? 1710 01:38:29,729 --> 01:38:31,557 This is what we needed, Rob. This is it. 1711 01:38:31,601 --> 01:38:33,951 -Oh, my God. -You were right all along, my friend. 1712 01:38:33,995 --> 01:38:35,170 -Merry Christmas. -: Thank you. 1713 01:38:35,213 --> 01:38:36,606 -You bet. -Thank you! 1714 01:38:36,649 --> 01:38:38,260 LARRY: Talk real soon. 1715 01:38:40,001 --> 01:38:41,828 -Hey, who was that? -You won't believe. 1716 01:38:41,872 --> 01:38:43,656 -TONY: Daddy, guess what I just did. -Yeah? 1717 01:38:43,700 --> 01:38:46,442 -What? What'd you just do? -I put the angel on the top. 1718 01:38:46,485 --> 01:38:48,139 -Yeah? -Uncle Ben lifted me. 1719 01:38:48,183 --> 01:38:49,532 He did? Like this? 1720 01:38:50,925 --> 01:38:52,839 Merry Christmas, everyone! 1721 01:38:52,883 --> 01:38:54,929 OTHERS: Merry Christmas! 1722 01:39:09,552 --> 01:39:10,814 We are gathered here today 1723 01:39:10,857 --> 01:39:14,600 in memory of Wilbur Earl Tennant. 1724 01:39:14,644 --> 01:39:17,603 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 1725 01:39:17,647 --> 01:39:20,650 He makes me lie down in green pastures. 1726 01:39:20,693 --> 01:39:23,609 He leads me beside still waters. 1727 01:39:23,653 --> 01:39:25,698 He restoreth my soul. 1728 01:39:25,742 --> 01:39:29,659 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 1729 01:39:29,702 --> 01:39:32,140 I will fear no evil... 1730 01:40:04,433 --> 01:40:06,043 TEDDY: Quick, everybody. Mustard or ketchup? 1731 01:40:06,087 --> 01:40:08,089 CHARLIE: Teddy, for the tenth time, that's my ketchup. 1732 01:40:08,132 --> 01:40:09,786 SARAH: Charlie, don't start. 1733 01:40:09,829 --> 01:40:11,527 CHARLIE: What? It's mine. I got it. 1734 01:40:11,570 --> 01:40:14,138 -He's got his own, okay? -MAN: You're that lawyer. 1735 01:40:14,182 --> 01:40:15,835 Finish up. 1736 01:40:17,098 --> 01:40:19,013 My brother's Dale Lamb. 1737 01:40:19,056 --> 01:40:21,102 You took his blood, said you'd help him. 1738 01:40:21,145 --> 01:40:23,060 Yeah, I did. We're-we're-we're... 1739 01:40:23,104 --> 01:40:24,409 we're working on that. I promise. 1740 01:40:24,453 --> 01:40:27,195 He's dead. 1741 01:40:27,238 --> 01:40:29,153 Testicular cancer. 1742 01:40:30,676 --> 01:40:33,636 Left three little boys younger than yours. 1743 01:40:38,902 --> 01:40:41,078 But you enjoy your family. 1744 01:40:44,081 --> 01:40:45,517 -Okay. Everybody up. -I'm not finished. 1745 01:40:45,561 --> 01:40:47,215 I said up. 1746 01:41:25,731 --> 01:41:27,168 Well, Darlene can't even leave the house 1747 01:41:27,211 --> 01:41:28,995 without being harassed. 1748 01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:30,649 ROB : I-I know, Joe. I'm... 1749 01:41:30,693 --> 01:41:33,826 First, they-they blame us for suing DuPont, 1750 01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:35,437 and now they hate on us 1751 01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:37,613 'cause they ain't seen nothing from it. 1752 01:41:37,656 --> 01:41:40,746 -ROB: I'm sorry, Joe. -Well, that ain't good enough! 1753 01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:44,576 And they wonder why in the hell it takes four damn years 1754 01:41:44,620 --> 01:41:48,145 to read a lousy blood sample, and I don't blame 'em. 1755 01:41:48,189 --> 01:41:50,191 We trusted you, Rob. 1756 01:41:50,234 --> 01:41:52,280 We put our faith in you. 1757 01:41:52,323 --> 01:41:54,195 -I know, Joe. I'm-I'm so... -All right? 1758 01:41:54,238 --> 01:41:56,240 -I'm so... 1759 01:41:59,069 --> 01:42:02,725 ROB: Isn't there just... just some kind of a... 1760 01:42:02,768 --> 01:42:04,814 a progress report, anything that I can... 1761 01:42:04,857 --> 01:42:06,859 I can share with these folks? 1762 01:42:06,903 --> 01:42:09,645 I mean, they-they... they have been waiting. 1763 01:42:09,688 --> 01:42:11,212 WOMAN : I'm sorry, Mr. Bilott. 1764 01:42:11,255 --> 01:42:12,996 The panel is still in the process 1765 01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:14,998 of analyzing complex data and modeling 1766 01:42:15,041 --> 01:42:17,348 from thousands of samples and medical histories. 1767 01:42:17,392 --> 01:42:19,089 I'm so sorry. 1768 01:42:19,133 --> 01:42:21,135 Could you hold a moment? 1769 01:42:31,014 --> 01:42:33,147 SARAH: Charlie, don't pick at your food. 1770 01:42:34,713 --> 01:42:36,367 What's a hooker? 1771 01:42:37,673 --> 01:42:39,849 Where did you learn that? 1772 01:42:39,892 --> 01:42:42,939 He told me that Mary Magdalene was a hooker. 1773 01:42:44,636 --> 01:42:45,942 What? She was. 1774 01:42:45,985 --> 01:42:48,031 You're supposed to say "prostitute." 1775 01:42:48,074 --> 01:42:50,207 SARAH: And then she found God 1776 01:42:50,251 --> 01:42:54,211 and became one of Jesus's most fervent disciples. 1777 01:42:54,255 --> 01:42:56,300 See? I was just teaching him the Bible. 1778 01:42:56,344 --> 01:42:57,736 I-I can't today. 1779 01:42:57,780 --> 01:42:59,390 So, everybody up. 1780 01:42:59,434 --> 01:43:01,653 -SARAH: Everybody up. 1781 01:43:09,313 --> 01:43:11,272 Can we still afford it? 1782 01:43:11,315 --> 01:43:13,056 What? 1783 01:43:13,099 --> 01:43:14,797 Catholic school. 1784 01:43:30,116 --> 01:43:32,728 My brother's back in rehab. Did you know that? 1785 01:43:35,426 --> 01:43:38,429 -No. I'm sorry. -Today's... 1786 01:43:40,301 --> 01:43:43,347 Today's Mom's first day at chemo. 1787 01:43:43,391 --> 01:43:45,044 I forgot. 1788 01:43:45,088 --> 01:43:47,264 'Cause it's not about your case, Rob. 1789 01:43:47,308 --> 01:43:48,483 Car! 1790 01:43:48,526 --> 01:43:50,136 -Gosh. -Okay. Geez. 1791 01:43:55,794 --> 01:43:59,233 Teddy forged my signature, and Tony's quitting football. 1792 01:43:59,276 --> 01:44:01,757 Tony. But how would you know about that, right? 1793 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,455 Because all you see, all that you-you... 1794 01:44:04,499 --> 01:44:07,589 the boys have ever seen is you obsessing about this... 1795 01:44:11,636 --> 01:44:13,638 Have I ever complained? 1796 01:44:17,860 --> 01:44:20,341 Say something, for God's sakes, Rob. 1797 01:44:20,384 --> 01:44:21,951 No. 1798 01:44:21,994 --> 01:44:23,561 -No? -No. 1799 01:44:23,605 --> 01:44:25,128 No. 1800 01:44:25,171 --> 01:44:26,825 Because I knew that you needed something. 1801 01:44:26,869 --> 01:44:30,176 Uh, some connection, s-something. 1802 01:44:30,220 --> 01:44:32,962 And s... so I took it on. 1803 01:44:34,180 --> 01:44:36,357 But if you want to start accounting, 1804 01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:40,274 if you want to start with-with, "Oh, can we afford," then... 1805 01:44:43,407 --> 01:44:45,322 I don't know, Rob. 1806 01:44:45,366 --> 01:44:47,281 Can the boys afford a father 1807 01:44:47,324 --> 01:44:49,152 who can't string two words together? 1808 01:44:49,195 --> 01:44:51,285 Can our marriage afford 13 years of... 1809 01:44:51,328 --> 01:44:53,504 13 years of this? 1810 01:44:55,637 --> 01:44:58,074 How about it, Rob? You want to talk about it? 1811 01:44:58,117 --> 01:45:00,119 About our lives? 1812 01:45:03,862 --> 01:45:06,648 Of course not. 1813 01:45:06,691 --> 01:45:08,998 I'll tell Mom you asked about her. 1814 01:45:12,218 --> 01:45:14,046 TOM: What in God's name is that panel doing? 1815 01:45:14,090 --> 01:45:15,526 And wh-why are we still getting bills? 1816 01:45:15,570 --> 01:45:19,051 Overhead, uh... local counsel. 1817 01:45:19,095 --> 01:45:20,618 H-Harry's call center. 1818 01:45:20,662 --> 01:45:22,185 A thousand dollars an hour. 1819 01:45:22,228 --> 01:45:23,882 That-that was a... that was a technical expert. 1820 01:45:23,926 --> 01:45:26,363 We needed to do fi-filings 1821 01:45:26,407 --> 01:45:28,800 when DuPont started lobbying Washington to keep C-8... 1822 01:45:28,844 --> 01:45:30,236 That's Washington's problem, not ours. 1823 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,064 That's why you got them involved. Your memo. 1824 01:45:32,108 --> 01:45:33,936 It was just a fine, Tom. It's a fine. 1825 01:45:33,979 --> 01:45:35,372 $16 million, it's... 1826 01:45:35,416 --> 01:45:37,026 it's nothing for these people. 1827 01:45:37,069 --> 01:45:38,897 -It's pocket change. -Yes, but if they get charged 1828 01:45:38,941 --> 01:45:40,334 with criminal concealment, game over. 1829 01:45:40,377 --> 01:45:41,726 You said DOJ was investigating. 1830 01:45:41,770 --> 01:45:43,554 -Not anymore. -What? 1831 01:45:43,598 --> 01:45:45,121 They dropped the investigation. 1832 01:45:45,164 --> 01:45:46,557 -They dropped... What? -They dropped it. 1833 01:45:46,601 --> 01:45:47,863 No reason given. 1834 01:45:50,474 --> 01:45:54,652 Tom, our-our government is captive to DuPont. 1835 01:45:54,696 --> 01:45:57,176 This case, it's the only hope we have. 1836 01:45:57,220 --> 01:45:59,527 They know that, and they're trying to make it 1837 01:45:59,570 --> 01:46:03,226 as expensive as they can to force you to make me stop. 1838 01:46:05,054 --> 01:46:07,273 -Just tell me how much longer. -Uh... 1839 01:46:08,318 --> 01:46:09,363 I-I-I ca... I can't. 1840 01:46:09,406 --> 01:46:12,583 I-I-I-I wish I could. 1841 01:46:12,627 --> 01:46:14,672 -Tom, I... -Are you okay? 1842 01:46:14,716 --> 01:46:16,326 Uh, I'm fine. I'm just... 1843 01:46:16,370 --> 01:46:19,329 Rob, I'm a managing partner now. 1844 01:46:19,373 --> 01:46:21,723 -I have a firm to run. -I know. 1845 01:46:21,766 --> 01:46:23,377 And, Tom, I think there could be 1846 01:46:23,420 --> 01:46:24,943 a huge payout here if we can... 1847 01:46:24,987 --> 01:46:26,510 You think I'm in this for money? 1848 01:46:26,554 --> 01:46:28,425 -No, I... -You think I am... 1849 01:46:28,469 --> 01:46:30,384 I'm-I'm letting you drag 1850 01:46:30,427 --> 01:46:32,647 this firm's reputation through a meat grinder 1851 01:46:32,690 --> 01:46:34,692 for some kind of plaintiff's payoff? 1852 01:46:36,825 --> 01:46:39,088 : I-I don't know why you're doing... doing it. 1853 01:46:43,875 --> 01:46:46,051 Rob, listen, I... 1854 01:46:46,095 --> 01:46:48,532 I'm sorry, but you're gonna have to take another pay cut. 1855 01:46:48,576 --> 01:46:50,316 ROB: Tom, that's-that's my fourth pay cut. 1856 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,101 -What am I supposed to do? -I-I-I... 1857 01:46:52,144 --> 01:46:53,494 TOM: You-you don't have any... 1858 01:46:53,537 --> 01:46:55,191 ROB: I'm-I'm down to a third now. 1859 01:46:55,234 --> 01:46:56,322 You don't have any clients. You-you... 1860 01:46:56,366 --> 01:46:57,454 No one will take your calls. 1861 01:46:59,195 --> 01:47:00,936 What am I supposed to do here? 1862 01:47:00,979 --> 01:47:03,678 Now, I'm on your side, but... 1863 01:47:03,721 --> 01:47:06,115 Rob? Emmy! 1864 01:47:06,158 --> 01:47:08,117 Hey! Emmy! 1865 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,685 -EMMY: Kathleen! Kathleen! -TOM: Get some help! 1866 01:47:10,728 --> 01:47:13,209 -TOM: Get some help! -Rob? 1867 01:47:13,252 --> 01:47:14,689 Rob? 1868 01:47:23,872 --> 01:47:25,482 TOM: Looks like we should, uh, 1869 01:47:25,526 --> 01:47:29,443 cancel my 4:00 with Jerry and... 1870 01:47:29,486 --> 01:47:31,401 I don't know. We're waiting. 1871 01:47:31,445 --> 01:47:33,621 But, uh, give us, uh... 1872 01:47:33,664 --> 01:47:36,537 Well, uh, uh... 1873 01:47:36,580 --> 01:47:40,497 Make-make sure that, uh, Jerry knows that, um... 1874 01:47:40,541 --> 01:47:42,586 I-I have to go. 1875 01:47:42,630 --> 01:47:44,675 -Mrs. Bilott? -Yes. 1876 01:47:44,719 --> 01:47:47,852 We think your husband's most likely experienced a TIA, 1877 01:47:47,896 --> 01:47:50,333 a transient ischemic attack. 1878 01:47:50,376 --> 01:47:52,553 Blood is briefly cut off to the brain, 1879 01:47:52,596 --> 01:47:54,859 mimicking the symptoms of a stroke. 1880 01:47:56,339 --> 01:47:58,384 Uh, uh, excuse me. A TIA? 1881 01:47:58,428 --> 01:48:00,299 This wasn't short. 1882 01:48:00,343 --> 01:48:02,650 It-it kept going on. 1883 01:48:02,693 --> 01:48:04,347 What about poison? 1884 01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:06,349 I'm sorry? 1885 01:48:06,392 --> 01:48:08,612 : Could someone be... be poisoning him? 1886 01:48:08,656 --> 01:48:10,614 No, Mrs. Bilott. 1887 01:48:10,658 --> 01:48:12,616 This is neurological. 1888 01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:14,662 You just said it wasn't a stroke. 1889 01:48:14,705 --> 01:48:16,620 Not this time. 1890 01:48:16,664 --> 01:48:18,317 -What does that mean? -Well, it means that 1891 01:48:18,361 --> 01:48:20,363 he needs to never miss his medication 1892 01:48:20,406 --> 01:48:24,236 and he needs to reduce all sources of stress in his life. 1893 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,369 He's under enormous pressure at work. 1894 01:48:26,412 --> 01:48:28,545 Well, that needs to change. 1895 01:48:28,589 --> 01:48:30,155 But he's a young man. 1896 01:48:30,199 --> 01:48:32,767 He shouldn't be having these incidences. 1897 01:48:32,810 --> 01:48:34,725 He's sedated, but you can see him. 1898 01:48:34,769 --> 01:48:36,727 -Okay. -I'll check in on him tomorrow. 1899 01:48:36,771 --> 01:48:38,686 Thank you. Thank you. 1900 01:48:42,733 --> 01:48:44,518 TOM: Um... 1901 01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:48,609 I'll, uh, give you some privacy. 1902 01:48:48,652 --> 01:48:50,611 Uh... 1903 01:48:50,654 --> 01:48:53,918 anything you need, call me. 1904 01:48:56,617 --> 01:48:59,402 I need you to stop making him feel like a failure. 1905 01:49:05,713 --> 01:49:07,628 I appreciate the stress 1906 01:49:07,671 --> 01:49:10,065 that your family must be going through. 1907 01:49:10,108 --> 01:49:11,762 Please... 1908 01:49:11,806 --> 01:49:14,025 don't talk to me like I'm the wife. 1909 01:49:17,072 --> 01:49:21,380 Did Rob ever tell you about, uh, moving around as a kid? 1910 01:49:21,424 --> 01:49:22,991 Um, I, uh... 1911 01:49:23,034 --> 01:49:25,080 Ten times before senior year. 1912 01:49:25,123 --> 01:49:27,778 No friends, no ties, no... 1913 01:49:27,822 --> 01:49:31,608 Just him, his sister, his folks and... 1914 01:49:31,652 --> 01:49:35,003 Then I came along, and you came along and, uh... 1915 01:49:36,874 --> 01:49:39,442 Taft-- it's not just a job. 1916 01:49:39,485 --> 01:49:41,575 To him, it's... 1917 01:49:41,618 --> 01:49:43,577 it's home. 1918 01:49:45,709 --> 01:49:48,886 And he was willing to risk all that 1919 01:49:48,930 --> 01:49:52,934 for a stranger who needed his help. 1920 01:49:52,977 --> 01:49:58,156 Now, you and I may not know what that is... 1921 01:50:00,158 --> 01:50:02,160 ...but it's not failure. 1922 01:50:24,443 --> 01:50:27,533 CONGREGATION: ♪ And you lead me 1923 01:50:27,577 --> 01:50:32,800 -♪ In ways everlasting 1924 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,808 ♪ Lord, you have searched my heart ♪ 1925 01:50:40,851 --> 01:50:43,724 ♪ And you know when I sit 1926 01:50:43,767 --> 01:50:46,335 ♪ And when I stand 1927 01:50:46,378 --> 01:50:49,686 ♪ Your hand is upon me 1928 01:50:49,730 --> 01:50:53,385 ♪ Protecting me from death 1929 01:50:53,429 --> 01:50:58,608 ♪ Keeping me from harm 1930 01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,395 ♪ Oh, Lord 1931 01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:06,050 ♪ I know 1932 01:51:06,094 --> 01:51:11,055 ♪ You are near 1933 01:51:11,099 --> 01:51:14,798 ♪ Standing always 1934 01:51:14,842 --> 01:51:20,021 ♪ At my side 1935 01:51:22,588 --> 01:51:28,290 : ♪ You guard me from the foe... ♪ 1936 01:51:46,264 --> 01:51:49,006 MAN: Hey, do you... do you know the score? 1937 01:51:50,399 --> 01:51:52,096 The game? 1938 01:51:52,140 --> 01:51:54,098 Sorry, my radio's busted. 1939 01:51:55,491 --> 01:51:57,580 -Sorry. -Don't worry about it. 1940 01:51:57,623 --> 01:51:58,973 It'll be a surprise. 1941 01:51:59,016 --> 01:52:00,322 WOMAN: Bucky, come on. 1942 01:52:00,365 --> 01:52:02,759 We'll be late. 1943 01:52:02,803 --> 01:52:04,500 Have a good one. 1944 01:53:45,906 --> 01:53:47,559 MAN : Hey, Rob. Bill Leary. 1945 01:53:47,603 --> 01:53:48,952 Uh, we haven't met. 1946 01:53:48,996 --> 01:53:50,954 I'm the new comptroller out of Indianapolis. 1947 01:53:50,998 --> 01:53:53,217 Listen, we need to talk about your unbilled hours 1948 01:53:53,261 --> 01:53:54,871 and these un-reimbursed... 1949 01:54:10,887 --> 01:54:12,236 Hello? 1950 01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:13,934 WOMAN: Mr. Bilott? 1951 01:54:13,977 --> 01:54:15,587 Yes? 1952 01:54:15,631 --> 01:54:19,243 I guess I should start by apologizing for taking... 1953 01:54:19,287 --> 01:54:21,898 -well, seven years to call you. -Mm, who is this? 1954 01:54:21,942 --> 01:54:23,508 Oh, yes, of course. 1955 01:54:23,552 --> 01:54:25,902 It's Dr. Karen Frank from the... 1956 01:54:25,946 --> 01:54:27,904 Science panel? 1957 01:54:27,948 --> 01:54:30,646 Again, I'm so sorry to have 1958 01:54:30,689 --> 01:54:32,953 -kept you waiting this long, Mr. Bilott. -Uh... 1959 01:54:32,996 --> 01:54:35,129 -But there was just so much data that... -Please, uh... 1960 01:54:35,172 --> 01:54:38,132 Doctor, please, can you... would you just please tell me 1961 01:54:38,175 --> 01:54:40,177 what-what's happened, what's happening, 1962 01:54:40,221 --> 01:54:41,918 what-what-what-what you've found out? 1963 01:54:41,962 --> 01:54:46,053 Yes, yes. You gave us an unprecedented amount of data. 1964 01:54:46,096 --> 01:54:49,578 The largest epidemiological study in human history. 1965 01:54:49,621 --> 01:54:51,275 It's irrefutable. 1966 01:54:51,319 --> 01:54:53,974 We have linked sustained exposure to C-8 1967 01:54:54,017 --> 01:54:58,021 -to six categories of serious illness. - 1968 01:55:02,156 --> 01:55:04,288 DR. FRANK: Kidney cancer, 1969 01:55:04,332 --> 01:55:07,074 testicular cancer, thyroid disease, 1970 01:55:07,117 --> 01:55:10,555 preeclampsia, high cholesterol, 1971 01:55:10,599 --> 01:55:12,731 ulcerative colitis. 1972 01:55:12,775 --> 01:55:17,301 3,535 people in the class already have these diseases. 1973 01:55:17,345 --> 01:55:19,434 Many more will develop them. 1974 01:55:21,436 --> 01:55:24,569 Thanks to you, the entire class will be monitored, 1975 01:55:24,613 --> 01:55:25,962 and those who get sick 1976 01:55:26,006 --> 01:55:29,792 can seek restitution. 1977 01:55:29,835 --> 01:55:32,838 You did a good thing here, Mr. Bilott. 1978 01:55:32,882 --> 01:55:34,710 You did good. 1979 01:55:36,494 --> 01:55:38,757 Thank you. 1980 01:56:22,323 --> 01:56:24,325 -SARAH: Oh. -Thank you. 1981 01:56:27,197 --> 01:56:28,764 Thank you. 1982 01:56:50,394 --> 01:56:52,918 ROB: Watch out, now. Watch your eyes. 1983 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:56,879 -Oh! 1984 01:57:30,826 --> 01:57:33,133 Rob? 1985 01:57:33,176 --> 01:57:35,048 What happened? 1986 01:57:38,573 --> 01:57:40,314 Rob? 1987 01:57:42,316 --> 01:57:45,058 DuPont, they're reneging. 1988 01:57:46,494 --> 01:57:48,104 Which part? 1989 01:57:48,148 --> 01:57:49,801 All of it. 1990 01:57:49,845 --> 01:57:51,629 They're tearing up our agreement, 1991 01:57:51,673 --> 01:57:53,544 rejecting the science panel. 1992 01:57:53,588 --> 01:57:55,068 They're-they're gonna... they're gonna... 1993 01:57:55,111 --> 01:57:57,070 they're gonna fight every claim in court. 1994 01:57:57,113 --> 01:57:58,680 Thousands of claims. 1995 01:57:58,723 --> 01:58:00,986 People, sick people, they'll give up. 1996 01:58:01,030 --> 01:58:02,814 They can't fight DuPont. 1997 01:58:02,858 --> 01:58:05,208 How can they go back o-on...? 1998 01:58:05,252 --> 01:58:07,080 -Sarah. -They-they can't go back on everything. 1999 01:58:07,123 --> 01:58:08,646 Well, they're a titan of industry. 2000 01:58:08,690 --> 01:58:10,605 I mean, they can do whatever the hell they want. 2001 01:58:10,648 --> 01:58:11,736 Nothing else matters. 2002 01:58:11,780 --> 01:58:13,260 They-they can fight you all they want. 2003 01:58:13,303 --> 01:58:15,088 It doesn't take away from what you've done. 2004 01:58:15,131 --> 01:58:16,959 Of course it does. 2005 01:58:17,002 --> 01:58:19,875 That's exactly what it does. 2006 01:58:19,918 --> 01:58:22,138 They want to show the world it's no use fighting. 2007 01:58:22,182 --> 01:58:24,662 "Look, everybody, even he can't crack the maze, 2008 01:58:24,706 --> 01:58:26,534 and he helped build it." 2009 01:58:28,013 --> 01:58:30,451 The system is rigged. 2010 01:58:30,494 --> 01:58:33,497 They want us to think it'll protect us, but that's a lie. 2011 01:58:33,541 --> 01:58:36,152 We protect us. We do. 2012 01:58:36,196 --> 01:58:38,241 Nobody else. 2013 01:58:38,285 --> 01:58:39,808 Not the companies, 2014 01:58:39,851 --> 01:58:41,505 not-not the... not the scientists, 2015 01:58:41,549 --> 01:58:42,898 not the government. 2016 01:58:42,941 --> 01:58:44,639 Us. 2017 01:58:46,684 --> 01:58:50,471 A farmer with a 12th-grade education told me that. 2018 01:58:52,299 --> 01:58:57,130 On day one, he knew, and I... and I thought he was crazy. 2019 01:59:03,788 --> 01:59:05,573 Isn't that crazy? 2020 01:59:09,707 --> 01:59:11,535 No. 2021 02:00:17,558 --> 02:00:19,299 All rise. 2022 02:00:19,342 --> 02:00:21,953 The Honorable Timothy Burg, United States District Judge 2023 02:00:21,997 --> 02:00:24,173 for the Southern District of Ohio presiding. 2024 02:00:24,217 --> 02:00:26,784 This court is now in session pursuant to the adjournment. 2025 02:00:26,828 --> 02:00:28,743 Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye. 2026 02:00:28,786 --> 02:00:31,224 All persons having business with this honorable court, 2027 02:00:31,267 --> 02:00:32,616 draw near, give their attention, 2028 02:00:32,660 --> 02:00:34,618 and they shall be heard. 2029 02:00:34,662 --> 02:00:37,099 God save the United States and this honorable court. 2030 02:00:37,142 --> 02:00:38,927 -Please be seated. 2031 02:00:38,970 --> 02:00:41,712 And we're here this morning for a jury trial. 2032 02:00:41,756 --> 02:00:43,801 So... 2033 02:00:43,845 --> 02:00:46,761 3,535 claims. 2034 02:00:46,804 --> 02:00:49,503 At a rate of four or five cases a year, 2035 02:00:49,546 --> 02:00:52,549 we can all expect to be here till... 2036 02:00:52,593 --> 02:00:54,508 well, the year 2890. 2037 02:00:54,551 --> 02:00:56,031 If we're lucky. 2038 02:00:56,074 --> 02:00:57,772 Guess we'd better get started. 2039 02:00:57,815 --> 02:01:01,079 Mrs. Johnson, is your attorney present? 2040 02:01:01,123 --> 02:01:02,429 Good morning, Your Honor. 2041 02:01:02,472 --> 02:01:04,431 Rob Bilott for the plaintiff. 2042 02:01:04,474 --> 02:01:06,781 Oh, still here, huh? 2043 02:01:06,824 --> 02:01:09,131 Still here. 2044 02:02:11,411 --> 02:02:12,934 ♪ Well, I won't 2045 02:02:12,977 --> 02:02:15,719 ♪ Back down 2046 02:02:15,763 --> 02:02:20,158 ♪ No, I won't back down 2047 02:02:20,202 --> 02:02:24,728 ♪ You can stand me up at the gates of hell ♪ 2048 02:02:24,772 --> 02:02:28,689 ♪ But I won't back down 2049 02:02:28,732 --> 02:02:33,171 ♪ Gonna stand my ground 2050 02:02:33,215 --> 02:02:37,175 ♪ Won't be turned around 2051 02:02:37,219 --> 02:02:41,571 ♪ And I'll keep this world from draggin' me down ♪ 2052 02:02:41,615 --> 02:02:45,662 ♪ Gonna stand my ground 2053 02:02:45,706 --> 02:02:50,450 ♪ And I won't back down 2054 02:02:50,493 --> 02:02:54,889 ♪ Hey, baby 2055 02:02:54,932 --> 02:02:58,806 ♪ There ain't no easy way out 2056 02:02:58,849 --> 02:03:02,418 ♪ Hey, I 2057 02:03:02,462 --> 02:03:06,770 ♪ Will stand my ground 2058 02:03:06,814 --> 02:03:10,687 ♪ And I won't back down 2059 02:03:19,217 --> 02:03:23,613 ♪ Well, I know what's right 2060 02:03:23,657 --> 02:03:27,617 ♪ I got just one life 2061 02:03:27,661 --> 02:03:32,100 ♪ In a world that keeps on pushin' me around ♪ 2062 02:03:32,143 --> 02:03:36,321 ♪ But I'll stand my ground 2063 02:03:36,365 --> 02:03:41,065 ♪ And I won't back down 2064 02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:45,461 ♪ Hey, baby 2065 02:03:45,505 --> 02:03:49,509 ♪ There ain't no easy way out 2066 02:03:49,552 --> 02:03:53,251 ♪ Hey, I 2067 02:03:53,295 --> 02:03:57,473 ♪ Will stand my ground 2068 02:03:57,517 --> 02:04:01,651 ♪ And I won't back down 2069 02:04:01,695 --> 02:04:05,829 ♪ No, I won't back down.